In a state of total war, all states become fascist, and the first sacrifices are law and human rights, as people are forced to become murderers and animals. Even anarchists form and obey heirachies in these situations.
Nazi collaborates? Now is not the time to worry about such historical concerns because the current concern is whether those targetted for behavioral corrections by the Ukrainian military are Russian collaborators or acting in a way that functions as collaboration.
Does that sound fascist? It should do, because it is. Because that’s part of war, as is the suspension of democracy. See there are trends, norms, and choices that are sacrificed in war.
With that comes systems of millitary justice, discipline, and punishment. Without that you have weak lines, you get rapists, traitors, sabotage, and chaos. Even western armies did war crimes and rapes in WW2. No one is immune to a loss of discipline.
War is organized murder, and there’s something much worse to be avoided: Disorganized murder.
What the article is talking about (torture and punishment) doesn’t get to that level. Yes, we can talk about how it’s a violation of rights from the comfort of our homes… But certain people sacrificing their humanity at certain times of history form the facts of how those homes remained comfortable and how we remain able to have such discussions from them.
The Ukrainian military are making an honorable sacrifice to defend Ukraine. Don’t forget that’s happening right now, it’s not a matter of history. It’s happening right now. Slava Ukraini
Torture does not create discipline, it creates chaos. Torturers tend to become comrade killers and family killers; training and facilitating torturers is how you get more rapists, traitors, and sabotage. Read Fanon, his observations about French torturers put to bed the idea that this could ever be a useful practice. Torture degrades the human condition and turns people into monsters, and they don’t turn back when the war is done. After this war is over, they’ll just go home and keep torturing.
Authorities are investigating a clash between protesters and authorities in a Ukrainian village, with one woman detained as officials claim the incident was engineered to heighten tensions.
Its now being reported that Mr Budanov claimed the female medic had purchased an ambulance prior, dressed in medical clothing and visited the building with the driver days in advance.
While it remains unknown whether the woman was acting for personal, political or financial reasons, Mr Budanov alleged the clash was a deliberate provocation.
“Yes, on the one hand there are provocateurs, but on the other hand there is tension in society,” he said.
Official inquiries are continuing to take place to determine the cause of the injuries, assess the housing conditions inside the facility and uncover any potential misconduct.
Get yourself together and smell the propaganda.the determination of the facts is for the Ukrainian police, millitary police, government, and or investigators to determine (and so far they’re saying they haven’t found anything worthwhile).
NOT for some propagandist writing on their blog to determine. Don’t be a sucker or show yourself a fool of Russia by believing whatever is put in front of you.
You’re the one saying that the Ukrainian government had to become fascist under the conditions of total war.
Well, guess what fascists do! They torture. I don’t see why we shouldn’t expect torture to be happening in those conditions, we’re going to hear more and more stories about torture as time goes on.
Fascism does not create discipline, it creates chaos, because they always start torturing. That’s why fascism collapses.
“The entire Ukrainian military including those investigating this are Nazis. It was secret Nazi nation in hiding before the war”
Is a pretty stupid and unrealistic viewpoint to hold, but it’s one supporters of Russia want people to accept. The Western world doesn’t embrace their oppressors like Russia does. The Western world has democracy, and the good sense not to invade their next door neighbours.
Nazi collaborators.
In a state of total war, all states become fascist, and the first sacrifices are law and human rights, as people are forced to become murderers and animals. Even anarchists form and obey heirachies in these situations.
Nazi collaborates? Now is not the time to worry about such historical concerns because the current concern is whether those targetted for behavioral corrections by the Ukrainian military are Russian collaborators or acting in a way that functions as collaboration.
Does that sound fascist? It should do, because it is. Because that’s part of war, as is the suspension of democracy. See there are trends, norms, and choices that are sacrificed in war.
With that comes systems of millitary justice, discipline, and punishment. Without that you have weak lines, you get rapists, traitors, sabotage, and chaos. Even western armies did war crimes and rapes in WW2. No one is immune to a loss of discipline.
War is organized murder, and there’s something much worse to be avoided: Disorganized murder.
What the article is talking about (torture and punishment) doesn’t get to that level. Yes, we can talk about how it’s a violation of rights from the comfort of our homes… But certain people sacrificing their humanity at certain times of history form the facts of how those homes remained comfortable and how we remain able to have such discussions from them.
The Ukrainian military are making an honorable sacrifice to defend Ukraine. Don’t forget that’s happening right now, it’s not a matter of history. It’s happening right now. Slava Ukraini
Fascist gibberish.
Torture does not create discipline, it creates chaos. Torturers tend to become comrade killers and family killers; training and facilitating torturers is how you get more rapists, traitors, and sabotage. Read Fanon, his observations about French torturers put to bed the idea that this could ever be a useful practice. Torture degrades the human condition and turns people into monsters, and they don’t turn back when the war is done. After this war is over, they’ll just go home and keep torturing.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/locals-storm-ukrainian-private-house-after-allegations-conscripts-were-tortured-inside/news-story/77068249644c50496c3e0e402d2f86ea
And? The provocateurs are Westerners and Nazis.
Who says there’s torture? A substack article.
Get yourself together and smell the propaganda.the determination of the facts is for the Ukrainian police, millitary police, government, and or investigators to determine (and so far they’re saying they haven’t found anything worthwhile).
NOT for some propagandist writing on their blog to determine. Don’t be a sucker or show yourself a fool of Russia by believing whatever is put in front of you.
You’re the one saying that the Ukrainian government had to become fascist under the conditions of total war.
Well, guess what fascists do! They torture. I don’t see why we shouldn’t expect torture to be happening in those conditions, we’re going to hear more and more stories about torture as time goes on.
Fascism does not create discipline, it creates chaos, because they always start torturing. That’s why fascism collapses.
No child, I said fascists encourage organized murder. If you can’t even hear and understand the words I say, I’ll have to stop talking to you.
Uhhh… This is pure projection and darvo
You just go back to reading your blogs, hun.
The Western world has done such a great job of indoctrinating people, they embrace their oppressors.
“The entire Ukrainian military including those investigating this are Nazis. It was secret Nazi nation in hiding before the war”
Is a pretty stupid and unrealistic viewpoint to hold, but it’s one supporters of Russia want people to accept. The Western world doesn’t embrace their oppressors like Russia does. The Western world has democracy, and the good sense not to invade their next door neighbours.
You are a joke. Democracy in the western world is dead
How’s Moscow? Winter is coming for you, as is Ded Moroz. Merry Christmas.