• FreedomAdvocate
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    5 hours ago

    I don’t think you understand how laws work if you think the fediverse is immune to things like this.

    • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      4 hours ago

      I don’t think you understand how decentralization works if you think these laws could possibly be applied to the global internet.

      • FreedomAdvocate
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        5 hours ago

        Do you think that laws don’t apply to instance owners? Why?

        • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          4 hours ago

          I love you just assume other states or countries give a shit what some red state thinks. the vast majority of fedi instances are not in mississippi, and the fines are not criminal charges to begin with. even if they were, good luck getting a blue state to extradite over something stupid like this.

          missississpi made a law with no teeth, and fedi is going to ignore it like they should because there isn’t shit some backwards US state can do.

    • Grenfur@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      5 hours ago

      Immune, no, insanely hard to police? Hell yeah. The thing with these laws is that it’s pretty easy for MS to sue Reddit and force them to comply. They have one centralized location to complain to. You can’t just call John Lemmy and have him comply. Would it be impossible for a state government to contact every single instance owner? maybe? But they’re not going to do it. Even if they made an attempt the instances hosted in other countries couldn’t give less shits about some southern US state.

      Nostr is a whole other beast… it’s currently littered with things illegal in just about every country on the planet but that shit’s still there so I can’t imagine MS could do anything there either.

      TLDR: Immune, no. Neigh impossible to enforce, yes.

      • FreedomAdvocate
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        5 hours ago

        They could very easily contact the owners of the Lemmy.world instance, for example, and there goes the biggest part of Lemmy.

        You act like that is hard for them to do. It’s not.

        • Grenfur@pawb.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          12 minutes ago

          If I remember right .world is hosted in Finland. Who likely doesn’t care about MS politics. They’d have to lobby the Finnish government, who, if they did capitulate would start an awful president. So they won’t as MS has 0 authority there. But, lets assume that they did, or that MS went to all of the ISPs and had them block .world. That’s thousands of dollars, hundreds of hours, lawyers, and paperwork. And the .world users in MS just download their config files and move to .de, .ca, or .uk. And now MS gets to repeat the entire process at three more countries who couldn’t care less about their laws. The would waste unfathomable dollars and hours chasing this mouse and get nowhere. So they just won’t. It’s posturing for the big tech companies. Same as with porn. The big 3 or 4 will just block the state and move on, and the rest and those hosted in other countries will continue like nothing happened. The conservatives will claim they won ‘for the children’, nothing will really change.

        • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          edit-2
          3 hours ago

          you don’t know shit, which is why you’re so confident about it. the same reason 4chan isn’t worried about the age laws in the UK is the same reason Lemmy.world isn’t worried about what one counsin-fucking southern yeehaw backwater in the US says is illegal.

          mississippi can’t do shit to Lemmy.world, even if they threw billions into lawsuits. which they can’t, because since republicans can’t balance a budget to save their lives, mississippi can’t even afford to give the people who are forced to live there clean drinking water. but here you are, thinking the state that’s last in education, in the “first world” nation that’s last in education , is going to start going around the world and making them listen to what some racist white descendant of plantation owners thinks is moral. fucking hilarious. I live in the US myself, and I’m not even going to listen to this law for my instance.