• BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nzOP
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    1 month ago

    You need to eat and pay rent even when you don’t have a job, therefore they’re not costs related to your income.

    How do I eat and pay rent if I don’t have a job?

    That requires money right?

    Where do I get that money?

    Do I pay taxes on that money?

    Do I need to eat and stay alive in order to get that income?

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      1 month ago

      This is like talking to a brick wall. If you don’t have a job you still have those costs, so that means those costs are not work related so can’t be claimed as tax deductions.

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        1 month ago

        This is like talking to a brick wall. If you don’t have a job you still have those costs, so that means those costs are not work related so can’t be claimed as tax deductions

        Let’s see if I can break it down so that even you can understand it.

        If I don’t have any income I can’t eat and will die.

        If I have any income and I spend any of that income on food then any taxes I pay on that income I should be able to deduct the cost of that food because without that food I won’t be able to pay taxes because I will be dead.

        Any food I eat is absolutely related to any income I get. Without income I have no food and I die. Without food I will die and will not earn (or aquire) income. My ability to get income is 100% dependent on the cost of the food. It’s absolutely related.

        No food == no income.

        got it?

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          1 month ago

          If I don’t have any income I can’t eat and will die.

          Plenty of people don’t have any income and can still eat and don’t die. This alone proves you wrong.

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                1 month ago

                Most people are in debt so they actually spend more than they make. NZ has amongst the highest personal debt in the world.

                But your point is irrelevant.

                if you have money to buy food you will need to pay taxes. If you are tapping into savings you are earning interest and that’s income. if you are selling things to make ends meet that’s income. If you are on the dole then that’s income. Hell if people gift you things that may also be counted as income.

                The point is no food == no income. If you die of starvation then you will not earn income. Any income you do earn depends 100% on you eating and staying alive.

                The fact this simple fact is unable to penetrate your brain shows how much your brain has been calcified by ideology.

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                  1 month ago

                  Any income you do earn depends 100% on you eating and staying alive.

                  No, staying alive depends on eating. You don’t need a job to be able to eat - people survived for thousands of years without jobs and money.

                  The fact this simple fact is unable to penetrate your brain shows how much your brain has been calcified by ideology.

                  The irony is just delicious.

                  • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nzOP
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                    1 month ago

                    No, staying alive depends on eating. You don’t need a job to be able to eat - people survived for thousands of years without jobs and money.

                    The fact that your argument only applies to pre human civilization era should give you a clue that it’s not a good one.