• matlag@sh.itjust.works
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    I don’t see why you can’t say the people wanted this AND most of the medias these days are oligarchs propagandas tools at the same time.

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    It’s a lot easier to blame anything else over accepting that a significant majority of the US (and probably the world) are either profound dullards or literal fascists.

    People, on the whole, are awful.

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      I don’t believe that. These people spend billions of dollars on media capture to put as many people as possible in a propaganda bubble. The more people you have in the bubble, the more awful shit you can get away with, which is why shit has gotten progressively worse as more people get segmented into echo chambers that foster extremism. It’s resilient too, because you can also scam your audience with commemorative coins and stuff, which makes it self-sustain long enough for people to feel like it’s just the way things always are. But I don’t think it’s just that people are awful. Too much money and effort goes into convincing people to be awful to each other for me to believe it’s a natural condition.

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      Every day, I find that I am more disappointed and angry with the general populace. I get that they were propagandized and shit from birth. But like… So was I. And yet I somehow got a conscience and eyeballs to read.

      People are just so incredibly lazy.

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    Perhaps some do, but I refuse to believe the majority want a king or dictator. It’s far more believable that a lot of voters were/are naive and really don’t like how things were going, rightly or wrongly. They then unsurprisingly ignored the candidate who said everything is fine, you’re the problem, and instead voted for the candidate who said you’re not the problem, the problem is all this scary stuff on fox news and only I can fix it.

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    The brutal truth is that America was founded on the premise of no kings, and that if you want a king you should move to Britain and get the fuck out of America.

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      This is of course persuasive propaganda all US citizens are taught. The US was founded by wealthy people who ruthlessly took control of the colonies for their financial benefit.

      Having said that, it is a popular sentiment that we are not a nation of kings. Not sure how that holds up with the billionaires manipulating our elections and directly controlling government agencies. I guess I may just be a little cynical about all this though.

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        Taught or not, propaganda or not. Any idea can become reality given enough momentum.

        My take is that monarchies, fascism, these aren’t natural ways for people to live. Even if freedoms aren’t guaranteed, people will always strive for them. So even if you’re right, and I’m inclined to agree with much of what you said, I figure heck, might as well fight to make the dream a reality, especially if it was never real to begin with.

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      Yeah, I don’t think the current British monarchy system is what they’re looking for. The people who want a king in the US are looking more for something like Russia.

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        Or indeed, a system like the one America was originally founded on, where the government was selected by wealthy slave owners

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          If George Washington hadn’t died in his sixties he would have been on track to become the first US Billionaire adjusted for inflation.

          Same as it ever was.

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      The funny thing that our king is just a funny old guy who comes out on a balcony to wave at parades, and not an autocrat who issues deranged new statements on an hourly basis and terrorises his own people by dictat and a vast personal militia force.