Honestly “zionist propaganda” has become such a hysterical dog whistle on lemmy ( I’ve been straight up accused of spreading "zionist propaganda " for pointing out that Jews, zionists and kahanists are different things) that it’s absolutely meaningless at this point
Sure some people may use the term wrongly but if you use zionists talking points then you are a zionist is simply as that.
Similar to antisemitism, israel using it as a dog whistle doesn’t mean that real antisemites are not in the internet and thst they are rightfully called antisemite.
I mean, you can literally look up the context. I simply said “Some people need to work out if they’re talking about Jews or Zionists or Kahanists” on a post about people conflating Israel and Jewish people and oh my look at that. Now I’m being painted an israeli defender, a genocide defender, a zionist…none of which is true. And you’ve picked up the thread and just barrelled onwards with it, with zero fuckin’ information other than your own self righteous bias.
THAT is what I’m talking about.
And honestly, when people start getting pissy about me being clear about the difference between Jewish people - as in the worldwide tribal identifier - and a genocidal regime in Israel I side eye the living fuck out of them. Why do you want to conflate the two so hard, hmm?
Honestly “zionist propaganda” has become such a hysterical dog whistle on lemmy ( I’ve been straight up accused of spreading "zionist propaganda " for pointing out that Jews, zionists and kahanists are different things) that it’s absolutely meaningless at this point
What do you call it when someone defends the lies of Israel and doesn’t care about Palestine having genocide committed to it?
Because that’s what Zionism is.
As usual, providing links can help other people assess the situation
And that isn’t what I’ve done. At all. Show me your receipts or fuck off with this hysterical bullshit.
I’m not buying your dogwhistles.
Sure some people may use the term wrongly but if you use zionists talking points then you are a zionist is simply as that.
Similar to antisemitism, israel using it as a dog whistle doesn’t mean that real antisemites are not in the internet and thst they are rightfully called antisemite.
Kinda proving my point right here.
Your point is that sometimes it is used wrongly or that most of the time it is used wrongly?
That its being hysterically applied to the point of meaninglessness.
You’re literally sitting there trying to score points off me for…what, exactly?
I just want to see what you are meaning that’s all but all you want to do is create a non existent problem
Some pretty good examples right here.
I mean, you can literally look up the context. I simply said “Some people need to work out if they’re talking about Jews or Zionists or Kahanists” on a post about people conflating Israel and Jewish people and oh my look at that. Now I’m being painted an israeli defender, a genocide defender, a zionist…none of which is true. And you’ve picked up the thread and just barrelled onwards with it, with zero fuckin’ information other than your own self righteous bias.
THAT is what I’m talking about.
And honestly, when people start getting pissy about me being clear about the difference between Jewish people - as in the worldwide tribal identifier - and a genocidal regime in Israel I side eye the living fuck out of them. Why do you want to conflate the two so hard, hmm?