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Tony Bark@pawb.social to Leopards Ate My Face@lemmy.worldEnglish · 17 hours ago

Joe Rogan on Trump's mass deportations: "I really thought they were just going to go after the criminals"

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Joe Rogan on Trump's mass deportations: "I really thought they were just going to go after the criminals"

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Tony Bark@pawb.social to Leopards Ate My Face@lemmy.worldEnglish · 17 hours ago
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    Ignorance of the law isn’t a defense, ignorance of obvious reality shouldn’t be either. He’s complicit and he knows it.

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    Poor, poor, Joe Rogan. Reality has eluded him.

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    Fell For It Again award

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    Rule: If you vote for a politician, the bad things they say could happen regardless of how much you don’t like the bad things.

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    I just don’t understand how so many people can say with a plain face “I just didn’t think he would do again exactly what he did the first time he was president.”

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      I call it this as “The Voter’s Wager”, essentially they believe less bad things will happen than promised, and more good things, because people are too confident in the “politicians just say things sometimes they don’t mean”.

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        I was a little shocked that they used Project 2025 so thoroughly, I though they’d just pull a few key things and try them out at first. Instead they do like half of it in 6 months. It’s astonishing for people on both sides, it’s definitely not what we’re used to. Obama had 8 years and tons of political capital and only got a couple signature initiatives done, nothing like Trump’s dozens and dozens.

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          The wealthy are in favor of Project 2025, so there is no real opposition to it. The wealthy did not want healthcare reform, so it had to be fought for tooth and nail only to end up with a compromise of handing tax money directly to insurance companies.

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      I mean, I do believe that Joe Rogan is both ignorant and stupid, so…

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        Lot’s of YouTubers play stupid, so that they get better engagement with their public, like saying some wrong things like it was a mishap gives you comments, being a bit dumbish makes people think they can outsmart you etc etc. it’s a monetary strategy. IMO.

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          A monetary strategy that promulgates mass delusions. Whoopsy.

    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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      Isn’t that with every president that gets re-elected? Man 4 more years and he can finally do the thing he promised. 200 drone stikes later: any minute now we have health care. Okay he was golfing quite a lot, but now that’s out of his system and he’s too old to fuck children, i can soon afford an egg.

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        Normalizing what Trump is doing is work of the enemy. Don’t be the enemy.

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    He’s just mirroring what his user base is thinking. We might be giving him too much credit with changing people’s minds: he just says what his listeners want to hear.

    In 2024, it was all about how Trump was going to restore American men to greatness and power against the encroaching evil of criminal immigrants, feminists, and trans drag queens (???)

    Now the same American men have realized that’s a bad look and he’s just providing the excuse for why it was okay to support this stuff.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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      We might be giving him too much credit with changing people’s minds: he just says what his listeners want to hear.

      He tells it like it is

      That’s from 2016 btw

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      he just says what his listeners want to hear.

      This has literally always been his schtick. He also constantly agrees with everything his guest say even when they completely contradict each other.

      He’s got no actual opinions on anything and never has.

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        I don’t like Rogan much, but i listened to him pretty regularly long before he moved to Spotify, when he was slightly less of a grifting bullshiter…

        He absolutely does not just agree with his guests. He regularly used to tear into them over bullshit they spouted. Now is he still as principled after all this time? I wouldn’t be surprised to find out no he isn’t. But he USED to challenge guests pretty often at least.

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          I’ll believe you if you can provide and example of him challenging something a guest on his show says.

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            It took me literally 3 seconds to find this https://youtu.be/S4ydSSwu1Ws

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        Same with that Diary of a CEO guy, dude never goes deep in his interviews, never questions an outrageous or unsubstantiated claim of his guests. And this guy has become really popular as well. It’s like people even as a 3rd party listener don’t like to hear criticism or even just critical thinking from an interviewer.

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      stupid fucking housefly.

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    The really fucking stupid thing about his reasoning quoted there is that there’s already a fuckton of legislation like RICO to take down gangs. You don’t need ICE for that, just get the police to their job.

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    Rogan is a fucking tooool who enabled Trump 1 & 2.

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    Liar

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      I actually think he’s just that stupid.

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        I think it’s a good mix of both

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    Joe meant to say hes a dipshit who got conned twice by the same conman lol

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    What a useful idiot.

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    Cue the very next episode where Joe will be spending 300x as much time berating the left because he saw a leftist do something stupid in an AI video with PS2 graphics.

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      Doesn’t even take AI to fool that guy. He is so dumb he can’t read a graph, so you can put facts in front of him and he will still think it supports his position.

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      Kinda sounds like trump, ever convinced of the opinions of the last person he talked to, or last video he saw…

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    I always thought he was a dumb media whore, but it turns out that he’s stupid for free.

    ~This post is not meant to disparage sex workers, who actually take care of their community~

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      This admission could be calculated, he might just be trying to stay within his audience’s palate.

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      Never bothered to listen to him, but a local stand up comedian has probably watched every podcast episode of his, and discussed it quite a bit on his own podcast: Nobody should listen to Rogan. He’s an entertainer and that’s it. He’ll allow anyone on his podcast regardless of beliefs and he tends to either believe or pretend to believe them when they spew conspiracy theories and other bullshit. His political opinions depend on who’s been on his show and that’s it. Most guests have been right-wing grifters for a long time now, so that’s what he believes.

      And that’s from a FAN of Joe Rogan.

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      To his limited credit, I’m pretty sure he’s called himself dumb in the past.

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        He does it all the time, but as a means to excuse himself for uncritically platforming cretins after the fact.

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      How do sex workers take care of their communities?

      Edit: Odd how so many retards are down voting me for asking a simple question.

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        They provide sex for people that want it.

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          Which is good for mental and emotional health

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            Not sure about their own mental and emotional health though

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              The same could be said for working in retail.

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                Somehow I don’t think it’s quite on the same level

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                  No indeed.

                  Sex workers are at least allowed to decline customers.

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              Lets be honest that will change when the stigma is removed.

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                If it was removed

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            Previous research exploring the physical and mental health challenges encountered by sex workers, predominantly focused on particular concerns like human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and sexually transmitted infections (STIs) (8) but also discussed various factors related to mental health such as childhood maltreatment and traumatization (with prevalences ranging up to 56.8%) as well as experiencing violence in this profession (with prevalences ranging up to 69.6% for experiencing physical attacks) (9, 10). Studies exploring the connection between prostitution, a history of childhood sexual abuse, and symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and other stress-related disorders reveal higher prevalences in sex workers compared to control groups (e.g., 26.2% among sex workers vs. 10.3% among the control group for PTSD) (10, 11). Additionally, the high level of violence experienced by sex workers has been linked to mental health issues and was addressed in previous studies, showing, e.g., that individuals who experienced any or combined forms of violence (physical, sexual, verbal) in the workplace are 1.76 times more likely to have depression compared to those who did not experience such violence (12). Research indicates that sex workers encounter violence more frequently than comparison groups before entering SW. Therefore, it is likely that sex workers, like other marginalized groups, exhibit poorer mental health compared to the general population (13–15).

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              Not speaking of the sex worker mental health buddy. It’s good for societies. See Europe.

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                So you are okay with an underclass of people suffering because you think it might be good for society?

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          I mean I do that too

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            And roughly where are you located?

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              At my house bro

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                Whoa! I’m at my house! Are you me???

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          Don’t most people provide a service in return for a payment

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            Yes, that’s good for society and the economy.

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          deleted by creator

          • rafoix@lemmy.zip
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            Do people need to do things out of their own kindness for it to be valuable?

            I am great at my job. I don’t do it for free or out of the kindness of my heart.

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              Depends heavily on individual opinion, in certain circumstances it does to me. Intent is very important to consider, if someone does something nice for the wrong reason then morally I believe it is not a valid act of kindness. keep in mind I’m not saying nor did I at any point say that prostitutes suck dick for the wrong reason.

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          Yeah for 500+ dollars, they don’t do it out of the kindness of there heart or because they think you’re cute. You could get it free by going to a bar and talking to people.

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            you bring too dumb to use the correct there/their/they’re is just perfect. It puts that extra zing to how dumb you make yourself look.

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              And I won’t change it either, you make yourself look equally dumb for insulting someone because they have a different belief than you, stop being a bigot you may find it enjoyable.

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                They’re not making fun of you for having a different belief, but for having a stupid belief.

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            So I’ve got this new business idea…

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              What’s that

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            What kind of well taken care of prostitutes are you getting? I’ve only talked to one my entire life and she was offering pussy for $20 as I was yelling at her to get out of my car because I was picking someone up as an Uber.

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              That’s the price in shitmurica.

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            I could?!?! Why did no one tell me this before now?!?!?!

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              No clue!!!

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        Edit: Odd how so many retards are down voting me for asking a simple question.

        Might not be, but your comment sounds like sealioning. You insulting those who downvoted you—especially with that term—doesn’t help your credibility in claiming it was just a simple question.

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          I call It how I see it.

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            Then be prepared to wear your downvote count as a badge of honor.

      • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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        Sex workers laid the foundation for so much of nightlife. They also did a ton for trans rights.

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          Brothels were also critical foundational businesses in most towns in the developing western US.

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          Have you ever talked to the old trans sex workers? Some of them enjoyed the work, but plenty were in a position where they could either do sex work or they could not work at all. I knew one lady who uh I don’t think had been ok ever since. If you’ve got the time there’s a podcast called Making Gay History, it’s the host playing old recordings he made for the book of the same name. You can hear Sylvia Rivera talk about their childhood in their own voice. Our liberation didn’t come from sex workers because sex workers are these awesome people, our liberation began with sex workers because that’s the only job a lot of people would let a trans person who wasn’t stealth or exceptional pre transition do back in the day.

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          In what instances?

          • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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            From my experience as a circus and burlesque performer in nightlife, most safety practices were created by sex workers. They also set the styles that then evolved into drag and burlesque. Sex work is also historically a part of the circus. I owe a lot of what I do to them.

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              You just made me miss my days photographing the BDSM and alt scene. Some of the most genuinely caring people I ever met who were truly concerned for everyone’s happiness and safety.

              I was always torn between my love for preserving these incredible moments and my desire but unwillingness to participate and it became exhausting. Looking back on it, I’m sad that I decided to step away.

              Long story short, I’m eternally grateful to people like you and appreciate your contributions to mental health, safety, community, and the arts.

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                Feel free to come back. As a leatherwoman we still love good and respectful photographers.

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                  Message me if you’re ever in south Texas! I love a good reason to get behind a camera, and will often make a deal if given a challenge that’s interesting enough.

              • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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                Name definitely checks out haha

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                  I feel so validated right now! Most users who find out or guess my username meaning get upset that it has nothing to do with cartography.

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              I wasn’t asking for your experiences, I was asking if you could provide any evidence to support the claim that was made.

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            You don’t seem to like the topic so any example anyone provides will be something you don’t like

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              I find the topic to be acceptable, what makes you believe I dislike the topic?

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            In the latter case it’s a correlation not causation situation. When a group of people is disproportionately pushed into either hiding or sex work, then yeah the major pushes for liberation for that group are gonna come from sex workers.

            Idk sex work is a job, no good in trying to make the people doing it into working class heroes. Just because I think their job should be safe and legal and I can find them fun to hang with doesn’t make it anything other than that.

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              I also believe the job should be safe and legal, but trying to argue that all sex workers are community heros is ignorant as fuck. You think people go into the sex industry because they wanna make your pp feel good and they care about depression? Maybe a few have, but most don’t.

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                I wasn’t the person you were arguing with. Ime most sex workers are doing it either for desperation or as a side gig that meets their capacity. I almost did it once when I was in a bad spot before deciding I wasn’t desperate enough to do sales, and I have an ex who sold nudes before it was cool. In fact I’m pretty sure I tried to make it clear I don’t think of them as community heroes and was more agreeing with you, just explaining one of the person you were arguing with’s points.

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                  Wanna keep arguing?

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                  I do still kinda wanna argue tho…

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                  Yeah sorry, all the arguing put me in my arguing hyperfocus so I really just wanted to argue with everyone at that moment, it’s a personality flaw me thinks.

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      Sure they do…

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        More useful than comments like yours

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          I would hope so.

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    They thought that meal team six would have balls to go after someone who might fight back?

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      Didnt you see they arrested that guy who was a multi traffic ticket violated with his last speeding ticket in 2013! Hasn’t had a speeding ticket in 12 years, he’s gotta be up to something

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