Don’t use whataboutism to shirk your responsibilities. Recycling properly is a good and necessary thing. Though it’d be more effective to create less waste in the first place.
Way to not understand the meme bro. This isn’t about shirking responsibilities or even not recycling. It is about the government telling us to recycle but not regulating big business at all. But go on with your liberal talking down on everyone schtick
The meme used a shitty comparison. The green bin program is one of the most effective and effecient waste reduction strategies. It reduces the distances garbage may have to travel, it reduces methane gas production, it reduces landfill use which extends landfill lifespans, and it creates clean enough compost to be used locally for decorative gardens and lawns.
Using something like don’t buy that product, the government says its bad, meanwhile the government failing to regulate said product would have maybe been a better comparison.
Not everything needs to be written out like you wrote for it to be understood for people who can read into context. It literally says “The government wants us to get this right” that is the crux of the message here. Nowhere in the meme does it say not to recycle or that recycling is bad, the juxtaposition is that no one is telling Meta to do anything but they are telling people to sort trash.
I was about to say thanks for the free ableism, but you did edit that out, so kudos, I guess.
Anyway, I dont see those two messages as being hypocritical because these are two separate issues. The main benefit of residential waste diversion is to extend the life of landfills – the climate benefits are secondary. Even if someone is a climate change denier, they should want waste sorting because landfills are expensive and their taxes would go up to build new ones.
The government asking you to sort your waste isnt an example of them failing to tackle the main actors of climate change. It’s cities trying to mitigate a separate issue.
Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments.
I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the “I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?” stage, I didn’t think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol
I’m well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I’m not a practitioner of violence. I’m not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it
I interpret the meme as “theres no point doing this right because big corps aren’t expected to do anything right”. Either way i think there was a better way to get the message across.
Why would a city go through all the logistics of running a green cart collection just to toss it on the same pile of trash? Some loads may be too contaminated to be composted but the vast majority of cities collecting organics seperately will turn it into compost. Your city’s website likely has more details about how their landfill and collections operate.
Because someone said they had to have a program and they just kind of did the bare minimum.
Because they meant well and hired a company to do it, and dumping was ehat they were set up to do.
Because they meant well, and then found out facilities didnt exist or there was a liability issue that made them skittish but the program had already been in campaign ads so constituents still had to see the bins, but the city would just be putting them wherever…
Trash recycling is a scam advertised by plastics companies so they wouldn’t be regulated by tricking gullible people like you. Most trash that is “recycled” is put into a landfill with no processing.
It’s not “more effective”, producing less waste would be the only solution. Which we aren’t doing because, again, plastics companies paid for decades of propaganda.
Liberals love to not solve problems and then throw themselves dramatically onto phrases like “whataboutism”.
Most trash that is “recycled” is put into a landfill with no processing.
I wouldn’t say most trash, just most plastics. Glass and especially cardboard and aluminum are able to be recycled almost endlessly and are more efficient to recycle than their original production cost.
They are able to, that doesn’t mean they are. I cannot find any data on residential recycling rates, and I have to assume, given the track record, that capitalist countries are doing the most wasteful thing that is the worst for the environment.
For cardboard and especially aluminum/copper there’s actually a pretty compelling profit insensitive for recycling them. For glass, it kinda depends on your locality.
Recycling plastic is mostly bollocks by numbers. To go by EU figures at best slightly over half of it even is recycled, of which 35% is thermically recycled i.e. burned. Another 1,3 Million tonnes which I can’t be arsed to manually calculate the numbers for get “shipped for processing” i.e. end up in a landfill / ocean / slum someplace else.
Don’t use whataboutism to shirk your responsibilities. Recycling properly is a good and necessary thing. Though it’d be more effective to create less waste in the first place.
Way to not understand the meme bro. This isn’t about shirking responsibilities or even not recycling. It is about the government telling us to recycle but not regulating big business at all. But go on with your liberal talking down on everyone schtick
The meme used a shitty comparison. The green bin program is one of the most effective and effecient waste reduction strategies. It reduces the distances garbage may have to travel, it reduces methane gas production, it reduces landfill use which extends landfill lifespans, and it creates clean enough compost to be used locally for decorative gardens and lawns.
Using something like don’t buy that product, the government says its bad, meanwhile the government failing to regulate said product would have maybe been a better comparison.
Not everything needs to be written out like you wrote for it to be understood for people who can read into context. It literally says “The government wants us to get this right” that is the crux of the message here. Nowhere in the meme does it say not to recycle or that recycling is bad, the juxtaposition is that no one is telling Meta to do anything but they are telling people to sort trash.
I was about to say thanks for the free ableism, but you did edit that out, so kudos, I guess.
Anyway, I dont see those two messages as being hypocritical because these are two separate issues. The main benefit of residential waste diversion is to extend the life of landfills – the climate benefits are secondary. Even if someone is a climate change denier, they should want waste sorting because landfills are expensive and their taxes would go up to build new ones.
The government asking you to sort your waste isnt an example of them failing to tackle the main actors of climate change. It’s cities trying to mitigate a separate issue.
Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments.
I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the “I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?” stage, I didn’t think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol
It absolutely and explicitly implies that recycling isn’t worth bothering with because companies will fuck shit up anyways
Recycling is necessary and putting band aids on your ouchy papercuts doesnt help shit while you have a cannonball exit wound in your chest.
When the billionaire class is dead and gone, it will matter.
Until then its onanistic victim blaming and I take offense.
Being in practice can only help. There is no downside to it
Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that’s really what you care about.
I’m well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I’m not a practitioner of violence. I’m not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it
I interpret the meme as “theres no point doing this right because big corps aren’t expected to do anything right”. Either way i think there was a better way to get the message across.
Does the city your in put the green bin in a different place than the others?
Most places it’s just different trucks headed to the same landfill.
Many cities process the organic waste at their landfill sites. They also often allow people to come buy the compost from the landfill.
Some do. Some just dump it like everything else.
Why would a city go through all the logistics of running a green cart collection just to toss it on the same pile of trash? Some loads may be too contaminated to be composted but the vast majority of cities collecting organics seperately will turn it into compost. Your city’s website likely has more details about how their landfill and collections operate.
Because someone said they had to have a program and they just kind of did the bare minimum.
Because they meant well and hired a company to do it, and dumping was ehat they were set up to do.
Because they meant well, and then found out facilities didnt exist or there was a liability issue that made them skittish but the program had already been in campaign ads so constituents still had to see the bins, but the city would just be putting them wherever…
Trash recycling is a scam advertised by plastics companies so they wouldn’t be regulated by tricking gullible people like you. Most trash that is “recycled” is put into a landfill with no processing.
It’s not “more effective”, producing less waste would be the only solution. Which we aren’t doing because, again, plastics companies paid for decades of propaganda.
Liberals love to not solve problems and then throw themselves dramatically onto phrases like “whataboutism”.
I wouldn’t say most trash, just most plastics. Glass and especially cardboard and aluminum are able to be recycled almost endlessly and are more efficient to recycle than their original production cost.
They are able to, that doesn’t mean they are. I cannot find any data on residential recycling rates, and I have to assume, given the track record, that capitalist countries are doing the most wasteful thing that is the worst for the environment.
For cardboard and especially aluminum/copper there’s actually a pretty compelling profit insensitive for recycling them. For glass, it kinda depends on your locality.
Recycling plastic is mostly bollocks by numbers. To go by EU figures at best slightly over half of it even is recycled, of which 35% is thermically recycled i.e. burned. Another 1,3 Million tonnes which I can’t be arsed to manually calculate the numbers for get “shipped for processing” i.e. end up in a landfill / ocean / slum someplace else.