https://mander.xyz/post/42872387

I received insults

Someone even posted photos of dead bodies

These comments weren’t reviewed, but I was permanently blocked because my political stance is to hope for the reunification of my country. They said I have nothing to offer, just spreading propaganda and negativity.

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    The people of Crimea may well wish to join (or remain) in Russia. Donbass? Impossible to say. Not as Russian as Crimea.

    Was this supposed to be a gotcha?

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        Crimea? Via referendum, sure.

        I don’t really regard the referendums conducted in the occupied regions of Ukraine to be valid at all.

        Do you support Taiwan’s self-determination?

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          I don’t really regard the referendums conducted in the occupied regions of Ukraine to be valid at all.

          Looool. "Who cares what the people living there think: I, an enlightened westerner, have decided that they are invalid.

          Do you support Taiwan’s self-determination?

          I support Taiwanese peoples right to self determination

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            Looool. "Who cares what the people living there think: I, an enlightened westerner, have decided that they are invalid.

            Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?

            I support Taiwanese peoples right to self determination

            And if they say “We don’t want to be a part of the PRC” would you accept that?

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              How convenient: any time you don’t like the result of a referendum, just declare that it can’t be trusted.

              And if they say “We don’t want to be a part of the PRC” would you accept that?

              Yes: unlike you I wouldn’t just declare “well clearly the RoC government just rigged the vote.”

              Would you accept if they did choose to be part of the PRC?

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                How convenient: any time you don’t like the result of a referendum, just declare that it can’t be trusted.

                Not what I asked you: Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?

                Yes: unlike you I wouldn’t just declare “well clearly the RoC government just rigged the vote.”

                The referendums in the Russian occupied regions were not conducted by Ukraine under any kind of neutral parties observation. Many Ukrainians who lived there had outright fled the regions due to the war, and could not vote - moreover, Russia didn’t even occupy all of the regions they held these referendums in. Moreover, are you normalising and justifying the idea of a state just invading chunks of land and them legitimising their conquest via dodgy referendums?

                Would you accept if they did choose to be part of the PRC?

                Yes.

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                  Not what I asked you: Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?

                  Damn, crazy how there aren’t any referendums from before the Russian invasion. I wonder why not…

                  The referendums in the Russian occupied regions were not conducted by Ukraine

                  Has Taiwan had any referendums conducted by the PRC? Presumably those are the only ones you’d respect.

                  Moreover, are you normalising and justifying the idea of a state just invading chunks of land and them legitimising their conquest via dodgy referendums?

                  As opposed to just refusing to hold referendums in the first place?

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                    Damn, crazy how there aren’t any referendums from before the Russian invasion. I wonder why not…

                    There also haven’t been any referendums in Wallonia to join France. Or Flanders to join the Netherlands. Or Austria to join Germany. What’s your point?

                    Has Taiwan had any referendums conducted by the PRC? Presumably those are the only ones you’d respect.

                    No, they haven’t. Why would they? The PRC don’t control Taiwan. I fail to see how this comparison makes any sense.

                    Also, is there a particular reason I should have to respect any referendums organised by Russia?

                    As opposed to just refusing to hold referendums in the first place?

                    When did the Zap oblast or Kherson demand referendums?

                    Is Wallonia obliged to hold a referendum to see if they want to join France? Is Russia “refusing” to hold referendums in Dagestan, Bashkortostan?