• gustofwind@lemmy.world
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        5 hours ago

        Ok how about this

        Have they been invaded since their permanent borders were established in 1953?

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          5 hours ago

          Again, very convenient: only an invasions are to be considered. Thank you for making my point.

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            5 hours ago

            Ah sorry I thought we were talking about invasions since the image is about Ukraine receiving support because they were invaded

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              Weird that all the people in the places they are fighting are Russian speaking Ukrainians that mostly moved into Russia during this war after being violently repressed by the Ukrainian government when they voted to join Russia and were denied

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                3 hours ago

                Hey, quick question, were those votes held before or after Russian troops were occupying those regions?

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                  They were held in 2014. The Russian invasion came after 10 years of violent suppression of the Russian majority of Donbas. To be clear I think Russia, Ukraine, EU and US are all awful villains in the world. But the US in particular is funding both sides of this war through client states in the EU when they overthrew the Ukranian government in 2014 and clandestinely through their proxies in Russia. The end goal is the Iraqification of Ukraine and theft of their resources.

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                    14 minutes ago

                    And might those ethnic Russians have been there due to a sustained campaign on the part of the Soviets to depopulate the region of ethnic Ukrainians and replace them with ethnic Russians as part of a plan to increase loyalty of the region to the central Soviet authority?

                    You can justify almost anything if you reach back in history far enough. It’s our responsibility to break the cycle and it’s pretty easy to stop believing the framing of a dictator who only wants to justify his territorial ambitions (and who has made noticeable overtures toward the recreation of the Russian Empire).