I know people out there who have invested a lot in gold under the belief that in the event of like complete societal collapse or hyperinflation, they could use it for purchasing.

I have the hunch it’s a scam, but I haven’t learned enough monetary theory, business, or economics to understand why.

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    It’s… Not really a scam so much as a thing for weird cranks who think the apocalypse is coming. If you have gold then you have gold. And gold will likely hold its value for a long time because it’s a rare resource. Unless we find some alchemy that turns common materials into it, it will likely stay that way. So if you buy gold at market value then you can always sell it later at market value, and that market value is almost guaranteed to be higher than when you bought it.

    The people who are really into it though are the weird cranks. And I’d imagine certain stocks or even bonds are arguably better returns in the same time span.

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      Not to be contrarian, but please don’t say gold is almost guaranteed to go up… There have been times in the 1900’s where people lost in gold massively and didn’t recover for decades.

      It HAS been a good investment in the last while, but it may have been just luck.

      Plus, at the price it’s at now… I kind of fear buying it.

      I looked into it as well but in the end went with a Gov Bond ETF instead.

      Edit: typos, I have feet for hands

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        please don’t say gold is almost guaranteed to go up…

        I mean, in so far as inflation is almost guaranteed to occur in a productive economy, gold is almost guaranteed to go up over the long term.

        A better question might be “Is an investment in gold going to outperform another asset class?”

        I looked into it as well but in the end went with a Gov Bond ETF instead.

        That’s been the gambit with gold for a while. Point to a short term up-cycle in price and insist that’s a long term ROI you can count on.

        But when you look at the actual price history

        there are long periods when the price is either flat or negative. Risk of holding gold relative to, say, the S&P or even basic Treasuries can get pretty high, unless you’re very confident we’re in one of those rare '04-'11 sustained price rises.

        Even as a hedge against short term downturns, it kinda sucks. If you look at the big historical recessions - '81, '90, '01, '08, '20 - the price of gold had typically already jumped ('01 being a notable exception) and subsequent years were fairly flat. Spikes in gold prices aren’t a bad prediction of future recessions, but they rarely make for good shelter on the eve of the crash.