1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards
2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Community Ban
3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
(I have not posted there)
Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4
Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.
Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.
Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.
This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.
PTB, it was probably because you keep triggering them in /c/leftymemes. Also lol at the hexbears in here calling YDI because their feelings are constantly being hurt.
EDIT: Omegalul at all the salt below.
do they not realize, they are more like conservatives than they like to admit.
The downside to me explicitly choosing an instance that defeds hex and grad is that I don’t get to see their impotent rage.
It’s not worth it, but you can view this page from db0.
Leftymemes banned me for calling the azov brigade nazis 🤣
Ban reason: “The Russian Armed Forces are liberating Ukrainian Nazi Azov cities”. I don’t think the mod took issue with the “Nazi” part of your comment. Get fucked, you deserved the ban.
B-but they got banned for being weird! That’s against left unity!!!
And who had invaded and occupied mariupol? Which was the only city I was talking about at the time.
Edit: their comment
pretty obviously shows that it’s the “nazi” part they took issue with.
Bro why are u vehemently defending the people who abondoned socialism? Putin and Yeltsin dont give a single fuck about it and destroyed USSR, yet I always see u guys defending Russia.
Because geopolitics is a bit more complicated than “our team vs theirs”. The original video that got me a ban that I was talking about when I got that ban gives a good insight into why russia is the lesser evil compared to the current ukrainian regime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZwLA869Sc
Im not talking about ours vs theirs tho. Im talking about the guy who literally ended USSR and his successor Putin. He has the all wealth and power of Russia. He owns fuck tons of shit and rich as fuck. Clearly, he and current Russia dont give a shit about socialism thus dont deserve our critical support.
I don’t understand, if we are not supposed to be critically supportive of governments or people we have criticisms of, then who?
I mean yeah they destroyed AES not just in Russia but beyond, but in the case of the SMO they’re fighting literal ss-tattood nazis terrorising the civilian russian population of east Ukraine. So in that conflict I am going to side with the brigade that doesn’t have a nazi rune on it’s insignia.
I don’t see any lefty memes bans for you at all.
Why wouldn’t he lie?
Edit: so another account got reasonably banned, deserved.
Why wouldn’t he* lie?
Ah, different account. I see now
But you missed the pronoun.
I’ll correct that
Not on your mod log.
There is no shame in having hurt feelings.
I gladly admit my feeling were hurt last year while me and my wife were receiving messages from her friend in the middle east, saying that one had no more parents, that one was now a window, that friends were dying.
And at the same time, I was reading the very same assholes whining 24/7 about tankies explaining everybody that the genocide was both unavoidable and a fatality anyway.
Funnily, the main mod of these anti-tankies is the guy that spread genocidal fake news during the mass killings.
Yes, that hurt my feelings.
Goat? Yeah goat is an asshole.
Weird how goat hates us yet he’s somehow part of us.
Almost like Hexbear is lying about us and has massive blinders on to “anyone I don’t like is the same person”
“Let me just bring up some completely unrelated things to provoke an emotional reaction”. Is it whataboutism all the way down with your peeps?
You can call everything whataboutism when straight up refusing to consider the context, but that’s just bad faith. How do you explain the whole harassing campaign is organized by genocide propagandists?
How is this post part of a harassment campaign?
Deceptichum@quokk.au is one of the gentleman whining about tankies I’m referring to above
I repeat: How is this post part of a harassment campaign?
using slur to turn people off political radicalism should get you banned anywhere, especially when the slur is clearly used by genocide supporters to push for denialism.
OK, so it isn’t?
also be nice i woke up at 6
Hexbear lives rent free in your head don’t we
Projection like a movie theater.
You’re referring to yourselves, clearly
Go and look how many hexbear threads you have about our admins and instance, then come back to me.
Anecdotally, I don’t think there’s been nearly as much conflict between Hexbear and dbzer0 as there used to be, and I’ve had good interactions with some of your mods, admins, and users. I’ve also, unfortunately, seen genuine Nazi apologia on dbzer0 protected as “criticizing the soviets,” and this is where the bulk of the remaining conflict stems from. I’ve also seen far more inflammatory posts from dbzer0 users trying to rile up Hexbear users than I have seen the inverse, and I regularly use Hexbear and only occasionally dip into dbzer0 comms.
Whenever someone like OP starts a crusade against “the tankies,” seemingly inevitably resorting to Nazi apologia, equating communists to Nazis, calling for mass violence against communists, etc, it’s entirely reasonable for the communists to be upset at that. There is endless leniance for these types of people here, in my experience, as long as they hide behind “criticizing the soviets.”
My thinking is that if certain ppl really hate hexbear or vice versa, then there’s a simple solution, which is to do everyone a favor and simply ban those particular individuals. Then both instances won’t have constant toxic interactions to deal with, which results in a better experience for everyone. So, I actually think this mod action was probably a YDI, simply because it’s probably the best thing for both parties, though calling it a win/win might be more accurate.
Yeah agreed, in general we get along just fine nowadays when we stick to our own lanes. The hexbears’ who get along with us are largely already here, and vice versa. So this “drama” is mostly just white noise from folks who aren’t regular instance users anyway. It’s an impossible task to keep everyone happy.
This is unnecessary and unhelpful hyperbole imo. Our users are free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of the former USSR, as well as of modern day Russia and China, and they are completely free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of western nation states too. Personally, I think it’s more productive to criticise rising fascism in the west, because that is a bigger and more imminent threat, at least where I live. And that is, in fact, the vast majority of stuff I’ve commented on or posted about. But I can also totally understand how someone with different life experiences might be more focused on Russian authoritarianism, or Soviet history or whatever. It’s just not my jam.
Yes, I agree with the general sentiment you are expressing here, if not the phrasing. McCarthyism is resurgent at the moment. A lot of establishment dems are seemingly more worried about the “red peril” than they are about Trump. I talked to one the other day who had never even heard of Joe McCarthy and assumed he was a democrat, lmao. And admittedly there are some anarchists who are also rabidly “anti-tankie”, sometimes to a fault. But hey, this is the internet, and people are gonna argue about pointless stuff all day long.
True, we are lenient about it because many anarchists think the USSR was a brutal authoritarian state that had few redeeming qualities. And while I agree that generations of anti communist propaganda in the west have undoubtedly contributed to that sentiment, we can’t just wish it away. However, I’d say we have to moderate probably 10x more ppl for defending US/western authoritarianism nowadays than we do ppl for defending russian authoritarianism, so I think it’s a bit of a lopsided criticism anyway. I’d like to think we are a fairly lenient instance in general when it comes to moderation, except for a few niche communities.
It might just be a PoV thing. OP, for example, is at a pure “attack on sight” mode with me, but someone like yourself isn’t going to get that same treatment. I think an easy fix is to take comments that advocate mass violence against “the tankies” or otherwise more seriously. You don’t have to make this a left-unity space, it’s entirely in y’all’s right to maintain an anarchist space for anarchists, but from a pure interest in better discussion it’s better to give the few extremely vocal and anti-communist users here a bit of a slap on the wrist when it comes to that.
Again, I’m aware that anarchists usually are fairly negative towards the USSR or other AES examples as they are against all states. It’s when AES is equated to the Nazis that this enters Holocaust trivialization territory, results in users calling for mass violence, etc, and regardless of community rules you’re going to see federated communists come in and push back on that.
I agree that banning is a solution too, I explained why I think OP being banned from the communism comm is actually relatively benign. It’s the same reason I pretty much never go to anarchist-specific spaces, my interactions with dbzer0 are pretty much the occasional times I check in on Lefty Memes or if I see anything going on in this comm, and neither comm is explicitly against Marxist participation.
In short, I think 80% of the struggle comes from 20% of the users (or even 95% from 5%, or 99% and 1%). Slapping them on the wrist a bit more when they get carried away would drastically reduce struggle sessions.
I haven’t seen one in quite a while. There were a bunch around when we started federation because of course there was, there were about every community we federated with as communities started mixing and there was friction. Which makes sense, lots of communities had threads about Hexbear too for the same reason. Last thread about db0 as an instance specifically I can recall you were defending a trans hating Nazi sympathizer, not sure why you’d think a mostly trans instance wouldn’t talk about that. It doesn’t make db0 a special target, we talk about all the trans hating Nazis who hate our existence. We really aren’t that unreasonable when framed like that (ie: correctly). More communities should talk about their transphobic members, it’s good to have that stuff out in the open.
I also don’t recall any of our current admins or mods specifically talking about db0 outside the context of those threads. Possible I missed it but I’m usually pretty tuned in so.
In short, it’s funny how annoying we are to basically the entire fediverse when all we do to deserve the hate is “maybe it’s bad to hate trans people” and “maybe genocide is bad.”
You don’t seem like you’re very tuned in much if you’ve missed all the rest tbh. It’s been way more and none of it has been transphobic (except of course the usual most uncharitable interpretations of hexbears by which there’s nazi transphobes everywhere.)
can’t speak for infamous but generally, not being tuned in to the middle-school crap you wade thru by choice daily speaks to a maturity you have not yet been convinced to strive for.
Oh gawds, I really have every random salty hexbear jumping in to reply to me today. Don’t you have anything better to do than perpetuating middle-school crap?
its not that youve angered me today db0, what angers me about you —and people like you — is your wasted potential. to have the amount of energy you do (i’m jealous) only to waste all of it on ego-driven pursuits makes me wonder if the two human traits are linked somehow, so often do they overlap.
all i can do for solace is prick the soft skin of that over-aired balloon and laugh as you fly around
Right, I’m a “bloated egoist” because I can’t help myself but reply to goading comments. As far as you know, that’s all I do. Nothing else of value has come from my “energy”, at least compared to you and yours. Am I right?
I guess I only tune into things when they’re notable
Indeed, the amount of maldling in hexbear comms about /0 is only exceeded by their pettiness
The amount of
on display here is astounding. I lurk on hexbear all the time and I almost never see people there even mentioning your silly instance. I do remember one exception when a hb mod was calling for defederation, pointing out how much water you carry for rightwingers and fash with some of your anti-communist screeds, but not only was that like over a year ago, that mod isn’t even around anymore, and I’ve seen no one on hexbear mention your instance once since then(it may happen from time to time but it is rare. However every time I see your name or unruffled pop up in my feed, it is always one of you whinging about those evil tankies on hexbear or the meanie tankes on .ml or how “authoritarian” the tankies on lemmygrad are.
I’m not one to “laugh out loud” when I’m reading usually, but your comment above actually made me chuckle a little. It’s just so obviously backwards with reality, how can someone not be embarrassed to say that and so plainly demonstrate how much those ebil tankies live “rent free” in their head?
Oh well if you didn’t see it, it surely hasn’t happened 🙄I’d link you to the half dozen defed, whinge and slop threads but otoh I don’t care nearly as much.
They hate us because they can’t shoot us like AuthComs do.
I mean, you’ve defended straight up Nazi apologia just because it was punching left
Nuh-uh
Jesus, you’re worse than Jordenlund
They’ll just claim that since they do it monthly it doesn’t count.
I normally agree with most of your sentiments, but not this one. if anything it seems the most sodium is coming from you and a couple other commenters in this thread. I hope you know I mean no disrespect.
I’m not one to defend hexbears. in fact most of the time I’m wary of anyone with that instance username, but in this case I think you’re being a bit unfair.
I have OP labeled as a troublemaker as I’ve seen him behaving poorly in a few places. swearing at people and calling them tankies just for disagreeing with him, etc.
I don’t think this is a left/right/hexbear/instance war- thing. it may just plainly be a “not nice” thing.
What, what did I do?
nothing, I just don’t think many of the hex commenters in this thread are being all that salty (which nobody finds more surprising than myself). most seem to have found the thread through normal channels.
maybe there’s stuff going on behind the scenes that I am not aware of, and I’m wrong. its entirely possible.
but just from an outsider perspective, it seems most are behaving fairly decently.
literally just Alaskaball when you posted this comment, I’m commenting because of semantics lol
It was an inevitable self-fulfilling prophecy, as clearly obvious now :D
i mean as of writing this comment its frontpage of hexbear all sort soo there’s gonna be a looot more
I know. They just can’t keep themselves away from a good pile-on because in their mind bullying works.
“Heh, engaging with items at the top of your feed? Typical toxic Hexbear behavior.”
Damn Tankies using this website as it was designed!
Nooooo stop bullying smol bean db0, two people from the same instance saying true things is authoritarian, actually.
As opposed to an entire instance starting a fight for no reason, that’s normal.
Yeah, how dare they engage with posts that show up on their feed, those bullies. They should let us slander them in our bullying com in peace!.
You really are a wretched hypocrite, willing to abandon all your claimed principles so long as you can punch left
Oh look, it’s the fucking idiot who called somebody a “Hitler loving pedophile” because they said something mean about communism.
Idk whose brain it is you have in a box, but you need to start using it for once.
Oh look, it’s the fucking idiots who said Soviets deserved to die because they didn’t surrender to the Nazis.
Holy shit, we found the least witty loser on earth
all imperialist soldiers deserve to die, shitstain, even “communist” Nazi-collaborating ones. stay mad about it tho.
You sound really mad, maybe you shouldn’t be in places you don’t like for your blood pressure.
This coming from the guy who’s so angry they’re posting frothing screeds
This coming from the guy who has two accounts to spam the same talking points.
Weird how they came in here suddenly.
B-but it was on all of our front pages! Ignore when we post it, link it, screenshot everyone, on our Slop community! Then talk about how much we hate them but don’t do anything to stop getting angry about it on the same community!
Edit: it keeps happening, wow I’m so shocked.
Edit 2: on the front page of Slop, users from Hexbear commented and then went to the post being discussed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59235577?scrollToComments=true
“But we don’t do that! Lemme just prove we do!”
Why did you link to a different post?
It was an example, I probably could have cleared this up
It’s just weird saying that’s the proof while saying they’re the ones causing drama.
And it’s still there while admitting it’s incorrect
This hasn’t been posted to slop, you dishonest troll. As ever, you’re just mad that communists are allowed to use the website built by communists
Yeah that acct is phony AF. A lib insult to the memory of EVD.
I only picked this name because I thought it was funny.
Incorrect.
Lol, anyone can go to slop and see that you’re lying. You’re really going to double down?
Anyone can see Hexbear is attacking us, are you really gonna double down?
Didn’t come here from slop or any other comm, it’s genuinely the top for me. Default settings, which are sorted by All & Active.
Considering we’re not federated with .world, this is probably the most active thread on our federated spaces.
Edit: also there’s quite a few .zip bots which would have artificially boosted the activity
You couldn’t have come here from slop because this thread isn’t on slop: they’re just lying through their teeth
oh yeah the .zip bot, I was surprised it somehow got through
The zip bots are very odd. I’ve reported them for spam.
And again, it was not the top when I checked. I concede things may have changed since then, but when I checked while work was slow it wasn’t.
I think the discrepancy comes from whether or not you’re logged in to an existing Hexbear account.
I got a screenshot on PC in an incognito window for just visiting Hexbear as a guest (default: Local and Active) vs my default as a user (All and Active, since federation at the very least)
Ignore the Nvidia pop up, I launched a game in the middle of testing this
It’s the “local” vs “all” sorting.
I personally used the “all” setting when I checked, but it’s important to note.
That’s probably a factor, I don’t have an account there.
How dare you play video games and have fun!
Hello I got here from the front page and as you can see (if you’re timely):
https://hexbear.net/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=Active
This post is currently at 2nd place of our front page, discounting the pinned megathreads.
Now I have provided proof of our position, will you provide proof of yours?
Of course they won’t prove their position; their irrational boiling hated is all the proof they need
You sure are mad people don’t like your actions being documented.
You’re not documenting shit though, you’re literally lying through your teeth. So you mean is: “you sure are mad that I’m making up bullshit about you!”
I just looked via my page and it’s on page 2. I genuinely wouldn’t know why Lemmy would rank it differently, but I had to scroll and then tap on Next page.
And whenever I muster the will to go back to Slop I’ll see it, with the dozens of other posts of people complaining about db0 and then doing nothing about it.
Still doesn’t explain why users feel the need to come in every time something like this happens on db0.
There’s no reference or link to this post on c/slop currently.
There is a lot of misinformation on lemmy about hexbear so we like set the record straight when people talk shit like you just did. This post is also just weird, it’s clear that OP doesn’t care about the community they were banned in. Lots of lemmy communities ban people who haven’t posted in that com for bigotry, having a bad upvote/downvote ratio or clearly not aligning with the community’s values. I don’t think that’s bad practice because I’d rather see an anticommunist be banned from a communist community from the moment they out themselves as an anticommunist regardless of the community they post in, rather than waiting before they try to antagonise the communist community.
Also I don’t see this post anywhere in slop, slop consists of mostly twitter screenshots so I’m not sure why you would lie about that.
It’s literally not there, you lying scumbag. But I’ve seen enough of your posts to know that you’re perfectly happy to spout deliberate falsehoods, so long as you can punch left
[citation needed]
You’re literally the one making the claim, asshole, where’s your citation? Not that it matters, anyone can go to slop and see for a fact that you are lying
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Hey look, it’s the kind of comment I was talking about. but it was totally on my front page and I had to go in there! I’ve never cared until now!
Edit: totally normal behavior from Hexbear to upvoted after the comment was removed, right?
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If Hexbear hates being called out maybe that’s on them? Weird how no one from Hexbear jumped on the OP’s defense, or any other posts here lately.
Keep being the guy I was mocking, you aren’t digging your grave more while giving more proof of the thing I was mocking.
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Weird how .world says we’re tankies with Hexbear and Lemmygrad but somehow also Nazis according to Hexbear. Two drastically different ideologies.
I’m sure it’s not because anarchists question laws being made to stop people who ask too many questions the state doesn’t like.
.world is too busy simping for israel. sh.itjustworks are calling you tankies
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Jesus Christ, you’re really going to look at their behavior and praise it for, essential, “triggering the libs”? You are basically just a right wing chud so long as it’s attacking communists
They’re not triggering the libs. They’re triggering tankies with lib memes. That’s supposedly ok.
I wonder if this thread will be what gets them to do anything about the one cheering for drama but claims to hate it
Thanks. I don’t mean to rock the boat so often in your house, it’s just where all the good comms are. Let me know if it’s ever too much and I’ll stop.
Lib memes. Garbage comm. Banned me for persistent thought crime. Good riddance.
It totally isn’t because you’re a serial ragebaiter or anything, or your foul attitude. No, it’s totally because of thought crimes. LMAO
No no, they’re the wrong ones for banning people who said things that break rules.
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