• duncan_bayne@lemmy.world
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    Boy the original NAZIs would have loved to have genetic data on everyone, once they got rolling on the Holocaust.

    I wonder if IBM will help with the next one, too?

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    This seems like an effort to generate kompromat on every tourist to the US.

    Names and addresses of every family member.

    Probably an outrageous amount of access to your phone, it directly mentions location services.

    10 years of emails, and 5 years of social media.

    Biometric data and DNA samples.

    The amount of espionage you could use this for is staggering. And I garuantee Palantir will get its hands on it.

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    So, if 1% 2-5% of idiots travel to USA and get their DNA taken & saved in a database, estimations say, that 100% of EU citizens could be identified, if I’m not wrong.

    This is so f*cking scary. But it already was before with this 23andme or FamilyTreeDNA-shit.

    Edit: corrected statistics

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      Do you have a source for this? I find it very interesting and would like to understand how exactly that would work. I assume it has something to do with some genetic distance between people and triangulating.

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        More broadly, a genetic database needs to cover only 2% of the target population to provide a 3rd cousin match to nearly any person

        https://www.science.org/cms/asset/089c0893-0dc3-4668-be4a-cff6d3915fad/pap.pdf

        Since I don’t know about newer studies, I will correct myself to 2-5% to identify the rest.

        My 1% came from a german source (Question at the Bundestag by Die Linke-party) which could still be correct though:

        Currently, over 1 percent of the population in Germany is already registered in the DNA analysis file (DAD) of the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA). This means that, statistically speaking, most residents have a third-degree relative in the database (see: ç). In other words, if familial searching were applied to the DAD, then theoretically, via the detour of near matches, every resident could be identified via DNA analysis, provided that sampling is uniform and unbiased

        https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/19/040/1904087.pdf

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    If you are so moronic to visit the united state of fascism at this moment in time then you deserve everything coming to you.

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      Yeah, how dare people have a family or loved ones from before the fascist coup. Stupid idiots.

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        I get your point but you don’t seem to get how serious the situation is. As a german I always wondered why there were so many Jews still around in Germany in the late 30s. Now I understand better. It’s a slow process of pushing each day what is tolerated to be said and done. Also it’s a bitter pill to accept your own country is turning against you or your loved ones.

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    Who in the right mind would want to visit the US at this moment in time anyway…

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      Many people who think it’s not that bad yet and they’re right that they’ll probably be ok. I know many people traveling to other hellhole countries. They’re not scared. So if there’s a congress they need to attend in the States, they go.

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      Yeah my country warned transpeople to not travel in US like months ago, that alone should have raised some flags for everyone else as well

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          Europe is far, FAR less populous than the rest of the world mate. ~450m people vs. the rest of the world’s 6 billion brainwashed into the mouse house propaganda that they should visit.

          But good on you. Don’t spend money in the US please, the only way to show these fucks is to hit their profits.

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            No, sorry, I said “Europe” because that’s what the post was saying. What I meant (and probably should have said) is: US-Americans are uniquely fascinated with Disney parks. Sure there are also parks in other countries, and I am sure there are some people traveling to the US to go to Disney parks specifically, but this being the first and foremost example for “reasons why people might go to the US” is just funny to me.

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              US-Americans are uniquely fascinated with Disney parks.

              yes, we’re so fascinated we built them in tokyo and paris for… us… americans… to visit…

              is just funny to me.

              glad to be of service to the special needs.

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                Do you just have bad reading comprehension, or are you being disingenuous?

                Obviously there’s Disney parks in other countries. I said as much above. But while there’s also shittons of other parks both in and out of the US, why do you think you specifically chose to use:

                some poor sod who’s been saving up for a decade to take his kids to disney most like

                as an example for why people would travel to the US? Is it because

                some poor sod who’s been saving up for a decade to take his kids to The Enchanted Island Amusement Park in Phoenix, Arizona most like

                would have sounded like a ridiculous stretch?

                Well… Same thing with Disney. The idea of saving up for a trip there for ten years, or the idea that Disney Land is something one has to experience, or is the ultimate vacation target,… is a uniquely US-American thing. Disney parks, to the rest of the world, are just another flavor of amusement park. If you’re in the vicinity, sure, why not spend a day. But traveling across the Atlantic for it? No way, not worth it at all, we have amusement parks here.

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                  https://roadgenius.com/statistics/tourism/usa/orlando/#Where_do_visitors_to_Orlando_come_from

                  Out of 6.13 million international visitors in 2023, around 1.3 million were from Canada. Followed by the United Kingdom with 900,000 visitors. Next were Brazil, Mexico and Colombia.

                  that’s orlando, but really, who the fuck is going to orlando and not doing disney.

                  I’m done arguing with you mate, I’ve been to Disneyland and World and seen tons of people from all over the world, and all over the US. I don’t like the company and I’m not endorsing their brain worms, but to deny they get into people all over the world would be short sighted.

                  have a great life.

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        I can’t imagine there are very many people doing this. You can just go to the one in Paris for a fraction of the cost and travel time. You can’t see the Grand Canyon in Europe, though.

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          suspect you can’t imagine much if that’s your limit.

          trust me, shit tons of people from other countries come to disney world and land.

          not endorsing it, but that is the reality.

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            Did you have a bad day or something? Of course a lot of European visitors go to the parks. What I’m saying is that the number of Europeans visiting the US specifically to go to Disney Land or World is probably negligible.

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    It’s always with our precious bodily fluids💦 with fascists…

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      Seriously, I say this as a USian. We are not currently worthy of your tourist money. Nobody should vacation in the US for the next 3ish years, if ever again.

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        Nobody should vacation in the US for the next 30ish years, if ever again.

        There, I fixed that for you… Even if (HUGE if here) the orange blob survives it’s term and willingly gives up power (not a great track record there) the fascist rot won’t go away over night…

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    The most powerful country in the world going fascist is so fucking scary tbh

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      scary

      Define fascism and then check how much was already fulfilled 10 or 20 years ago.

      Also check the biography of German chancelor Merz, especially his former employer.

      * Downvotes for what? This is not a pro fascism comment.

      To answer my questions, most requirements of fascism are already fulfilled so we are mostly just dropping the fassade. This includes Europe because Merz has worked for Blackrock, so his worldview very likely supports the neoliberal approach that is also driving the US.

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        • Downvotes for what? This is not a pro fascism comment.

        it’s not helpful either…

        say what your point is, don’t send people to do homeworks to guess at what you are trying to say

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          Thanks. I have added the answer. I had assumed that by now almost everybody knows about Blackrock.

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        I’m sure what you’re saying has merit, but I’m scared enuff right now. Maybe later.

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    here, you need to wear this electronic ankle bracelet while you enjoy our land of freedom…

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    Hear my words: in a few month the EU will require DNA as well. Right now they are going: write that down, quickly write that down…

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      Nah. I think it will be difficult to throw over existing data security regulations. Both in EU and national level. But the concern is valid. We don’t want that