China is a threat to Africa, trying to buy land for military bases from African countries. China is constantly trying to expand and dominate its culture. If that isn’t the definition of imperialism, I don’t know what is.
No one is claiming China achieved communism, we just believe its policies reflect an attempt at building it. It’s also silly to slander a socialist state as “authoritarian” if you have read the bare minimum of Engels. If you’re earnest on supporting communism I encourage you to look into the compatible left and seek non western perspectives more broadly.
The PRC has a socialist market economy. The working classes control the state, and the large firms, key industries, finance sector, are all dominated by public ownership. Public ownership is the principle aspect of China’s economy. State capitalism as a term more fits the Republic of Korea, where the state is controlled by capitalists and private ownership dominates the economy, but with heavy state influence.
Where are you getting your ideas about communism from that leads you to believe that China isn’t building towards communism? Roland Boer’s Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners is a great place to start with learning about China’s socialist system.
To my knowledge the only military base China has in Africa is the one in Djibouti, and literally every country who can afford to have a base there has a base there.
If that isn’t the definition of imperialism, I don’t know what is.
Indeed, you don’t have a clue what it is. Try looking up “unequal exchange”, or better yet reading a book on the subject. Lenin’s Imperialism: the highest stage of capitalism and Fanon’s How Europe underdeveloped Africa are good reads on the subject.
You clearly don’t know. I suggest you read about France’s parasitic relationship to Central and Western Africa that continues to this day, it even controls the issuance of the currency for eight West African nations and six Central African nations. Nothing China does even in your imagined worst case scenario comes close. And that’s just France.
China is not trying to expand nor dominate its culture. China has mutual development projects with African countries, it isn’t dramatically expanding its millitary presence. The US Empire has hundreds of overseas millitary bases, China has 3. This is just the typical western projection of its own sins onto China.
Wikipedia lists 3, but it’s Wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt. It might be fewer, but rhetorically it’s easier to just say 3 so nobody can come in with Wikipedia to say I lied.
The reason this cliché is utterly unconvincing to me is because it’s incomplete. Nobody seems to be able to genuinely prove how both statements are true, whenever hypocricy is pointed out. It isn’t at all grand and revealing to say that 2 things can be true, what matters is investigating the truth of the 2 things.
No, I usually use this term to describe people who e.g. use cookie cutter sentences which just empower the powers that oppress us and stay in the frame of the general western (especially EU-centric) propaganda doctrine.
It’s possible for two things to be true at once.
It’s also possible to try using your brain instead of just regurgitating imperial propaganda uncritically, but here we are
Could you restate this?
like fix the grammar?
“try using whatever your brain instead of”
Does not parse
I was gonna be snarkier, and forgot to delete whatever :)
It’s possible for you to not talk solely in rote, word for word, recitation of thought terminating cliches, and yet you don’t.
It’s possible for your entire hand to fit in your ass
Oh yeah? PROVE IT
I can’t, I have large hands and a small ass
I would love for you to actually make a claim rather than this meaningless bullshit.
The World isn’t the West. China is an enemy of choice for the West due to racism, otherwise it poses no threat.
China is a threat to Africa, trying to buy land for military bases from African countries. China is constantly trying to expand and dominate its culture. If that isn’t the definition of imperialism, I don’t know what is.
It must be so nice being an anti-communist. You can just make up whatever unsourced bullshit you like and expect people to believe it
I am pro communism. China is not communist, it is authoritarian and state-capitalist.
I wonder what the alternative to authoritarian is and why it involves getting overrun by bears
Is China State Capitalist?
And yet you accept anti-communist slander as true without question.
Have you ever, even just once, asked yourself where those accusations come from? Who made them? Who propagated them? Why they did?
No one is claiming China achieved communism, we just believe its policies reflect an attempt at building it. It’s also silly to slander a socialist state as “authoritarian” if you have read the bare minimum of Engels. If you’re earnest on supporting communism I encourage you to look into the compatible left and seek non western perspectives more broadly.
The PRC has a socialist market economy. The working classes control the state, and the large firms, key industries, finance sector, are all dominated by public ownership. Public ownership is the principle aspect of China’s economy. State capitalism as a term more fits the Republic of Korea, where the state is controlled by capitalists and private ownership dominates the economy, but with heavy state influence.
Where are you getting your ideas about communism from that leads you to believe that China isn’t building towards communism? Roland Boer’s Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners is a great place to start with learning about China’s socialist system.
orly? https://jasonhickel.substack.com/p/is-china-doing-colonialism-in-africa
No sources for that claim of course, as usual.
To my knowledge the only military base China has in Africa is the one in Djibouti, and literally every country who can afford to have a base there has a base there.
Indeed, you don’t have a clue what it is. Try looking up “unequal exchange”, or better yet reading a book on the subject. Lenin’s Imperialism: the highest stage of capitalism and Fanon’s How Europe underdeveloped Africa are good reads on the subject.
Walter Rodney wrote How Europe Underdeveloped Africa. Frantz Fanon’s most famous work is The Wretched of the Earth, which is also a banger. Here’s Lenin’s Imperialism, the Current Highest Stage of Capitalism and the Prolewiki page on unequal exchange, for reference.
You clearly don’t know. I suggest you read about France’s parasitic relationship to Central and Western Africa that continues to this day, it even controls the issuance of the currency for eight West African nations and six Central African nations. Nothing China does even in your imagined worst case scenario comes close. And that’s just France.
Yeah, its clear you have no clue what that is. Trade and development are not imperialism.
China is not trying to expand nor dominate its culture. China has mutual development projects with African countries, it isn’t dramatically expanding its millitary presence. The US Empire has hundreds of overseas millitary bases, China has 3. This is just the typical western projection of its own sins onto China.
I thought they only had one, in South Africa. Where are the other 2?
I only knew of the anti-piracy base on the coast of Djibouti.
Wikipedia lists 3, but it’s Wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt. It might be fewer, but rhetorically it’s easier to just say 3 so nobody can come in with Wikipedia to say I lied.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
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Sadly, sh.itjust.works can’t see grad comments.
Oh, right. I forgot.
True.
Both true
The reason this cliché is utterly unconvincing to me is because it’s incomplete. Nobody seems to be able to genuinely prove how both statements are true, whenever hypocricy is pointed out. It isn’t at all grand and revealing to say that 2 things can be true, what matters is investigating the truth of the 2 things.
thx you filled my liberal bingo card for this week :)
‘Liberal’ really just does mean anyone you disagree with, huh?
O7
Wow, another word for word recitation from the book of tedious shitlib cliches.
Are you actually capable of forming a sentence of your own? Or just repeating the ones you’ve had programmed into you?
Covfefe, authoritarian, Ruthkanda forever, if Kamala had won we’d be having brunch
No, I usually use this term to describe people who e.g. use cookie cutter sentences which just empower the powers that oppress us and stay in the frame of the general western (especially EU-centric) propaganda doctrine.
You suck at this