• Zagorath@aussie.zoneOP
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    2 days ago

    The most salient point might be that the way it’s currently worded, pointing out that Israel is committing genocide could get you in trouble with this new law (and truth is not a defence) because your statements could reasonably cause hatred towards Israelis.

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      What are facts and common sense but things that are to be debated and enforced with the rule of law, after all, people feelings are getting hurt by the truth so we have to make it less obvious otherwise these people might look bad.

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      19 hours ago

      Israelis are not a race though, they’re just citizens of a country.

      So it would not be able to be classified as ‘racial hatred’ and then they would have to pivot to charging that you’re inciting hatred against Jews, which would be much easier to defend. Protesting against Israel is not protesting against Jews - in fact there are a lot of Jews that protest against Israel.

      Edit - the proposed new laws add ‘nationality’, so my suggested response would not be helpful to avoid arrest/charge.

      I agree with others the wording of the proposed legislation is very bad for free speech, restricting or curtailing the ability to protest against the action of governments. Protesters would have to very carefully state their disagreements were against government and government officials and if they ever broadened their placards or slogans (as is very standard for protests) to something like “Against Russian aggression”, or “Stop Israel’s genocide” they could be charged with inciting hate against a nationality. They could fix this by adding ‘govt’ to their placards but the chilling effect will be real and the legislation is an overstep.

      What a joke. Thankfully the legislation has now been scrapped.

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          19 hours ago

          OK well then that’s completely fucked, I’ve edited my original comment to reflect.

          The legislation is now thankfully dead though, I dropped a comment at the top of the thread.

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          What happens when the Russian embassy claims that expressions of support for Ukraine are “Russophobia”, and thus hate speech under the law?