This is my repost of my previous post here. My question WASN’T actually clear enough, so I had to add “United States presidential” to the title. That said, I’ll start by saying I’d vote for Governor of Kentucky Andy Beshear.

  • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    That tactic hasn’t worked very well for the DNC, their only policy for the last 10 years is we are not Trump, despite every other indicator showing that they are.

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      22 hours ago

      great, go vote for the greater of two evils and tell me how well that goes for you. Oh wait, we’ve seen what happens then

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        22 hours ago

        50 years of liberal ‘lesser evil’ has led to where we are right now. A small acceptable evil allows a slightly larger one the next time.

        Your incrementalism gave us incremental fascism.

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          16 hours ago

          50 years of liberal ‘lesser evil’ has led to where we are right now.

          1. they didn’t have 50 years of “lesser evil”. It’s been a mix, also, the 3 government branches have been in different hands throughout

          2. the Dems implemented progressive policies throughout

          3. the dems are not a “lesser evil” they are an “imperfect ok”

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          21 hours ago

          So you’re blaming Dems being weak for Republicans being fascist?

          Next are you going to blame the rape victim for not fighting back hard enough?

          Dems haven’t done enough. That doesn’t mean they made this all happen. Republicans made this happen. Period.

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            20 hours ago

            Fascism doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Historically every time it’s raised its head it’s been with the complicity of liberals.

            Claiming that Dems are not strong enough to fight back Republicans is not an effective argument to support them. That’s a reason to refuse to support them

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      21 hours ago

      their only policy for the last 10 years is we are not Trump, despite every other indicator showing that they are.

      Criticize the Dems. I’m not saying they don’t deserve it.

      But that statement is irresponsible. Dangerous even.

      The last time Dems were in power American citizens weren’t being executed in the streets in broad daylight by an immigration agency 1300 miles from the southern border. The last Dem president wasn’t sending a Gestapo into American cities to terrorize American citizens to instigate pushback so he could cancel elections. The last Dem president didn’t corruptly use the National Guard to take over Washington DC. The last Dem president didn’t instruct his DOJ to openly defy the law.

      I can’t believe this continues to need to be repeated but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

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        20 hours ago

        Democrats were helping build the infrastructure and creating the tools necessary for trump to take these actions. While you were at brunch Biden increased ice funding to the highest level they’ve ever received, he boosted detention center construction, he helped local police build cop cities. Bill Clinton’s expedited removal allowed immigrants be denied due process, a measure Obama used on 75% of those he deported. Obama/Biden built the cages trump kept kids in. ICE is collecting a database of faces of protesters to be cataloged and maintained by Palentir, who Democrats have a very cozy relationship with.

        In just a few days Schumer will help muster the votes needed to boost ICE funding again.

        No matter how many times you want to shout it, they are the same.