Whenever I post or comment (collectively, “post”), it has my upvote automatically without me doing anything, so the post always starts at +1/-0.

Now I’ve seen fresh posts with +0/-0, so not even the user itself is upvoting.

I don’t really care that much about votes, but I’m curious. Is this the user removing their own upvote, a client feature, some server feature, or some other reason?

Thank you in advance.

Edit: typos

  • Pamasich@kbin.earth
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    18 hours ago

    In my opinion I shouldn’t even have the ability to upvote my own comments. I don’t really see the point behind doing so.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      18 hours ago

      You don’t like what you post? Then why did you post it? The auto upvote for yourself is because it is assumed you like what you post. That right there should tell everyone that they are not intended to be more complicated than “like” or “dislike.”

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        17 hours ago

        Might have to clarify that my instance (or rather Mbin in general) doesn’t do auto upvotes.

        Though it doesn’t really change my stance. You can swap it around to removing the auto upvote, I don’t really see the point behind that being possible either.

        If you like your content, keep it up. If you don’t like it, either edit it until you do or delete it. Upvotes and downvotes are for judging the content of others, not your own. So be it adding one when there’s zero, or removing the upvote automatically added by your instance, I don’t see the point in either being possible.

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      18 hours ago

      I mean, you thought it was a good comment to post. You’re a user on the fediverse, therefore you deserve 1 updoot.

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        17 hours ago

        But there’s zero information gained from a self upvote. If I didn’t like my comment, I’d either delete it or edit it until I do.

        Of course I like my comment if I keep it up, so a self upvote adds nothing. The only advantage I see is to make this place look more like Reddit, which isn’t really something I care about.

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    2 days ago

    My mbin account doesn’t auto-upvote my posts or comments, and neither did my kbin account.

    At the time I started using kbin, it was considered a character flaw to upvote your own content. Votes were also public.

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    I’m on Mbin and there is no auto upvote, so every comment/post starts at zero. I could be wrong but I think it actually removes the self-upvote from posts/comments if they have it.

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    Some of us sometimes, & others all-the-time, remove the auto-upvote, so that our posts/comments get dealt-with neutrally:

    Bandwagon-jumpers tend to downvote comments/posts which have balance-is-downvote on them.

    Others do the same for upvotes.

    I often find I’m voting against the herd, simplly because what I’m upvoting is an actual-point, & is impacting our world, even though what-it-is that is being pointed-out isn’t “politically acceptable” to say.

    Generally I upvote MUCH more than I downvote, but as Nick Yee discovered, in his Gamer Motivations research, some people are very social, but they’re very ANTI-social: they like destroying what others are valuing.

    So, it comes down to the individual-person’s motivations, AND it comes down to their frame-of-reference, both: they are independent dimensions to consider.

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      This mentality is insane to me. But it explains so much about right vs left.

      Like are you a knight of the lemme round table or something. What path has one taken to get to the point that you remove your own upvote on your own post so that is dealt with fairly?

      I can’t with you people. It is claustrophobic watching every MAGA individual aggressively take every advantage and turn even their biggest fuck ups into victories. Meanwhile in left leaning spaces people are making sure they take the opportunity to seize every defeat from the clutches of victory

    • Die Martin Die@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Good point on dealing neutrally. I don’t care enough to remove it, though, and I just assume one upvote is a self upvote anyway.

      Regarding downvotes, whenever I don’t like something, I just leave it be. I have a huge up to down vote ratio too. I only downvoted a handful of times, when it was clearly malicious.

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    I’ve seen that and my best guess has always been the initial/self upvote got “lost in the mail” during federation. AFAIK, the post creation and the initial upvote are separate activities that need to federate. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

    If your instance is resolving a post manually that it doesn’t already know about (and it it’s not coming in from being subscribed) then it will not get the initial upvote, but I don’t think that’s what you’re referring to here.

  • irelephant [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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    2 days ago

    Sometimes if a post or comment is fetched a bit after it’s been posted, the votes for it aren’t fetched as well.

    Some users delete the down vote on their comments