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No, no, no you dont understand. This time the humanitarian concerns of neocons is real and definitely not a pretext for regime change.
Hi.I’am from iran please ask me anything that you have doubt about it and i probably able to show you evidence. (Sorry for bad English)
From what I have read Iran doesn’t seem like a very good place to be these days. A lot of violence is shown, especially against women and girls. Religious extremism also looks quite scary to me. My question is how do you feel about your country and how is it different from the way it’s being represented in the media? (Assuming you track western news I guess).
Thank you for taking questions, I hope you and your family are safe and cared for.
How’s the internet access in the country right now? Only people with starlink get to connect at all?
so for now we can hardly find some proxy config for access to internet. in general i can say 6/10 of people have access but we have some problem. in past 5 years they try to make Iran internet to intranet you can read about it here : https://powell-software.com/resources/blog/difference-between-intranet-and-internet/ in the one of the firsts day of Protests (Jan 8 2026) they change our access from internet to “iran intranet” and also closing telephone lines(They wanted the protesters to have no access to calls, so that they would no longer be able to communicate with each other even by calling.), and this status continued for 13 day i guess. and from then until now they filter some of proxy protocol like vless, but this mfs can every time they want change this conditions to intranet.i hope i help ,sorry again for my english.
Ahh, I see the over bearing, authoritarian, theocratic government we instilled is now no longer useful.
I believe Iran is going through a new worker-led revolution and that the current theocratic regime is certainly gunning down protesters and the US is scared of what’ll happen if the workers rise to power so they want regime change instead.
It started with a currency crash (which is most likely a result of US manipulation). That failed, because the Iranian government didn’t immediately oppress business owners whose demands (not to sell at a loss) were found to be reasonable.
Then at least four different groups (including monarchists and Kurdish separatists) started killing civilians, police forces, setting mosques on fire, and so on (there’s footage for all of this, if you have the stomach to watch it).
The Iranian government responded to that by shutting down the internet, and with force. When they shut down the internet the riots more or less stopped, which signals that the operations were conducted from abroad, the obvious candidates being the US and Israel.
Furthermore, there have been millions of Iranians rallying in support of their government all over their country, which makes sense as foreign led violence can only push you closer to your government.
You can’t have a workers revolution without an organized vanguard and class consciousness. This is just old school terrorism by reactionary groups supporting a regime change to install a US puppet, like we’ve seen time and time again.
I make no moral judgement on the government’s action, I’m just recounting the timeline of events.
The thing I think is that Iran is indeed an authoritarian theocratic regime and killed 3000 people confirmed by themselves, but so is Israel. The problem is the ipocricy in the judgement of a nation that should before look at it self and get that it’s not better than others. But we all know this
Most of those were civilians and security forces (2427 out of 3117). The other numbers floating around seem completely made up by NGOs and western media so it’s hard to know if there are more dead rioters.
how many is too many?
I agree, that’s why we all should condemn the western sanctions that made the local currency collapse and led people to starvation and violence
How many western regime change operations that inevitably create magnitudes more casualties is too many? Because that’s the “solution” that’s being talked about, not some actual people’s government
I’m not sure I understand the question, if you mean whether I trust any numbers the answer is no, but the government numbers are a good minimum estimate.
If the question is whether I support the Iranian government uncritically, the answer is also no, but based on past history it’s still an extremely stupid idea to support an intervention.
I believe Iranians deserve a break from the illegal sanctions that keep them struggling, once they can breathe they’ll decide in their own terms if they wanna reform or overthrow their government or whatever else.
Palestine also.
/s Yes they lied about Iraq but Iran is an authoritarian state that should be toppled. Two things can be true at once you know.
So many “fell for it again” awards need to be handed out these past few years.
What happens after it is toppled?
They greet us all liberators
That’s the problem
Freedom arrives in the form of an US-backed monarchy. Oh wait.
Democracy ofc then ISIS but one thing at a time /s
you know, installing some al-qaeda dissident on power but he’s totally fine now since he uses a suit.
Typical imperial core chauvinism. They know their governments are evil but still cling hard to the idea that they’re the best therefore every non western aligned country must be even more evil.
“If my country is evil while calling itself the leader of the free world, other countries must be super evil”
can you post the latest Time Magazine cover and point out its pushing war propaganda again ? thank you
I read this to the tune of Yakko’s World
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Iranian state tv gave an official death toll of 3117. from aljazeera, famously pro US outlet.
How many people have died in Iran as a consequence of western sanctions since their currency exchange value plummeted? Remember, EU+US sanctions murder HALF A MILLION PEOPLE YEARLY over the world.
ah yes. whataboutism.
It’s not whataboutism, the protests are literally created by western-manufactured poverty, the US has admitted as much. Remember that the sanctions on Cuba are justified with the following:
“to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government”. I’m quoting official US memos here.
It’d be whataboutism if it was unrelated or looking to downplay something, it’s very much related as you would have never had riots without the west sanctioning them and collapsing their currency. End the sanctions now if you care about Iranians.
Correct, there have been thousands of deaths, not the fantastical numbers in the 10s of thousands reported by Hasbara accounts and western media, and not the result of the IRGC one-sidedly slaughtering people en masse but intense riots and turmoil. Exaggerating tragedies and changing the nature of real events is exactly how western atrocity propaganda functions.
that’s still pretty damn far from the 30’000 that’s floating around in western media
yes it is, not saying it isn’t
I’d guess the real number is cliser to hrnwa which is around 10k
Why guess a number without better information?
“I’m more comfortable trusting the CIA funded outlets without any evidence, I am very impartial”
What was the lie about Ukraine?
Russia didn’t invade Ukraine?
The invasion was completely unprompted and nothing happened in the years immediately preceding it.
There’s a few to choose from. Like the war started in 2022. Ukraine doesn’t have a nazi problem. Euromaidan didn’t have any western interference. Zelensky doesn’t have Epstein ties.
Forgot the best one, Russia bombed it’s own gas pipeline!
This one is practically 200% proved that wasn’t the case so liberals behave like “I never said that”
They really have no shame, Biden straight up said they would destroy the pipeline if Russia ever did anything and so they did but media tried to spin it as if Russia did it 😅 that should be eye opening to anyone but americans have the memory span of a mosquito.
I know we like to spread misinformation online on this here .ml instance, but that might be too much even for you. Also, everyone knows that the war technicality started in 2014 when putin did the first invasion, I don’t even understand what kind of gotcha that might be
Which part of QinShiHuangsSchlong’s comment was misinformation? Can you articulate how and why? Further, the war started as a consequence of Donetsk and Luhansk seceding from Kiev into the Donetsk People’s Republic and Luhansk People’s Republic, following the far-right western-backed coup of Yanukovych. Once the Banderites took power and started oppressing ethnic Russians, the DPR and LPR seceded.
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The only people saying that are the clueless Americans. Everybody in Europe understands that the war started in 2014 when russia invaded Donbas, Luhansk, and Crimea.
But this is wrong, still. Crimea joined the Russian Federation, and Donetsk and Luhansk seceded, in response to the far-right Banderite coup.
Ukraine has as much of a Nazi problem as the US, France, Germany, Poland, or any other country on the planet. Sure, there definitely are Neo-Nazis there - like everywhere else. But the narrative was that the government was “overrun” by them, where in fact the most right-wing party received 6% in 2014 and less than 2% in 2019. Meaning, as of right now, there no fundamentalist right-wingers in the parliament, much less so in the government.
The Banderites were the ones that overthrew Yanukovych, and as a consequence have been emboldened by the state. The far-right governs Ukraine.
Define “western interference”.
People sending food and blankets to the protesters? Yeah, there was that.
Western governments silently supporting whoever opposed Yanukovych? Possibly, maybe. But those people weren’t really doing much.
CIA/Mossad inciting the streets to rebel against the government in an attempt to coup Yanukovych and install a pro-western ruler? Yeah, that one’s lunacy. Yanukovych got in power because he promised a more pro-western route in politics, the people wanted to be a part of the EU and NATO since 2001. Then, in 2013 things were starting to look really promising for Ukraine, and exactly then Putin ordered Yanukovych to reverse course, because he was afraid about his oil contracts. When Yanukovych did that, people went to the streets.
From @yogthos@lemmy.ml
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA151VA/
- Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoW75J5bnnE | transcript
- Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/10/us-imperialism-and-the-ukraine-coup/
- Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/26/robert-parry-the-mess-that-nuland-made/
- Monthly Review Online, 2021: The Maidan massacre in Ukraine: revelations from trials and investigations https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/
- Maidan coup thread https://archive.ph/BAxYc
- Coup details https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/
- Don’t Get it Wrong: Ukraine and “Israel” are Both Tools of US-EU Imperialism
- An article from August 2021 advocating inflicting a military defeat on Russia in Ukraine to subjugate it and draw it away from China https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
- An important piece that reveals Washington, via CIA paramilitaries, has been fighting a proxy war against Russia in the Donbas since, it’s implied, 2014. https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-secret-cia-training-program-in-ukraine-helped-kyiv-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html
- NYT coup coverage with CIA involvement https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
- Nordstream US involvement evidence https://thegrayzone.com/2023/06/27/evidence-nord-stream-underwater-expedition/
- The US harvesting Ukraine for minerals https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-us-rare-earth-minerals-deal-8566241ea0e121a30437d845357055d8
None of the to-date released documents mention him as a guest or client of Epstein, so I don’t even know where is this coming from.
Kiev is a gangster state with immense corruption. I haven’t seen any direct Epstein ties, but it would be unsurprising.
The “secession” was made by russian troops illegally entering the sovereign territory of Ukraine. The “referendums” were made under threat of violence from armed russian soldiers.
The reality is that the war started because Ukrainians wanted to join the West, found oil and gas reserves and already had contracts with BP and Shell for extraction, all the while Moscow’s contracts were expiring in 2023.
Nah, this is bullshit. Yanukovych was very popular in the regions that seceded:
The Banderites wanted to move towards the imperialist west, but Yanukovych wanted to go with the Russian loan that didn’t require austerity politics and impoverishing Ukrainians even further. That’s why the west supported the coup.
That’s one of the most hilarious things I’ve read in a while :D
Laughter instead of responding isn’t a point.
Lol, you accuse Zelensky of being connected to Epstein but after providing exhausting links about Western involvement in Euromaiden (fine we helped, fuck Putin and his corrupt mafia regime, that is insanely well documented) you fail to provide a single link/email/document on Zelensky being linked to Epstein despite millions of Epstein files on the net.
Secondly you’ve not provided any proof that Zelensky is a “gangster” (a well known celebrity comedian, who some how forced Russia to invade Ukraine 4 years in 2014, before he even became president… Where do you dumb fucks get this shit from?)
Thirdly Russia had to invade and hold phony referendums in order to somehow prove eastern Ukraine didn’t want to become part of Europe.
Keep on making shit up you dumb ass.
Secondly you’ve not provided any proof that Zelensky is a “gangster”
I think Cowbee said “Kiev is a gangster state with immense corruption” which is a bit different.
For almost 2 years, people have been violently kidnapped from the streets, thanks to this totally non-gangster state, after they loosened the laws (which Zelensky signed, BTW). For example, here (violence warning!) is a yesterday video from Odessa. And we get video like this every day. It’s like ICE in US, but much worse because people can’t protest against it due to ongoing war.
And recently we had a ton of corruption scandals tied to Zelensky’s inner circle. You can just scroll below, someone already linked.
I never accused Zelensky of being connected to Epstein, that was another commenter. I haven’t seen the claim myself yet.
Secondly, the massive corruption scandals in Ukraine are reported even by the west, so I figured you’d have seen it.
Third, the Russian Federation assisted the LPR and DPR after they requested Russian assistance against Kiev, who had been shelling them for a decade.
Not making anything up.
