I’m old enough to have seen that tried many times now, and look where we’re at.
I think it’s time for something different, and we can start by not championing centrists, or attacking/shaming people on the left who do criticize them.
We clearly live in different timelines, the DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years. If you want party reform you need to get initiatives on local ballots, if you want a progressive and democratic future then you need to vote DNC in the generals.
They had 48 democrats, and two independents who caucus with democrats.
From a functional standpoint that’s 50. At least it is until just enough democrats turn quisling and vote like you want. Stop lying. Stop making excuses.
Gavin is digging his own grave, I’m sure those ballot measures will amount to something when progressives are back in power in Cali. Gavin is the sole opponent to the 2019 ranked choice voting.
Biden won the 2020 Primary, about doubling Sanders’ votes. Are you implying Bernie Sanders is also just pretending to be progressive and intentionally throwing?
We should have had a primary. I’ll never forgive Biden for that.
I also don’t forgive people who knew better and still didn’t vote for the only viable alternative to Trump.
We have to put together a winning coalition to get these monsters out of power, but that coalition isn’t going to line perfectly with your or my politics. If it did, it would alienate a lot of people to our right, which is probably at least 90% of the country in both our cases. Somebody has to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.
I don’t care if your genocidal psychopathic ass doesn’t forgive me; you’re pure evil. You being mad at us means we’re doing something right. Make note how you don’t have any antipathy for the people to your right (as if it’s possible to be to the right of active genocide).
Vote blue no matter who?
I’m old enough to have seen that tried many times now, and look where we’re at.
I think it’s time for something different, and we can start by not championing centrists, or attacking/shaming people on the left who do criticize them.
similarly, when it comes down to general elections i hope we can recognize value of harm reduction versus purity contests
We clearly live in different timelines, the DNC have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years. If you want party reform you need to get initiatives on local ballots, if you want a progressive and democratic future then you need to vote DNC in the generals.
Complicit liar. They had 50 in their caucus and the turncoats were all democrats. The turncoats did what you wanted, so you’re lying for them.
A Caucus is when Independents and third parties rally under their banner. The DNC currently have 45 seats.
They had 50 under biden. But since they voted with republicans like you wanted them to, you’re lying for them.
They had 48 under Biden
They had 48 democrats, and two independents who caucus with democrats.
From a functional standpoint that’s 50. At least it is until just enough democrats turn quisling and vote like you want. Stop lying. Stop making excuses.
Have you not noticed them failing to get support over the last 13+ years by trying the same strategy over and over again?
Why should we keep doing more of the same if it hasn’t worked? I don’t get this logic?
Have you not been watching Gavin vetoing the what he or his donors don’t like in California after the people pass them like that?? Nm
Gavin is digging his own grave, I’m sure those ballot measures will amount to something when progressives are back in power in Cali. Gavin is the sole opponent to the 2019 ranked choice voting.
Gavin is applying for predetermined frontrunner.
I bet you said the same thing about Bloomberg. Regardless of his low chances of primary success, he would still be infinitely better than Trump.
Nope. Biden was the predetermined nominee in 2020. Bloomberg was a means to that end.
And you support any candidate over a progressive. Including and especially trump.
Biden won the 2020 Primary, about doubling Sanders’ votes. Are you implying Bernie Sanders is also just pretending to be progressive and intentionally throwing?
Bloomberg’s literal stated reason for joining the race was to stop Sanders. Stop with the self-serving revisionist shit already.
We didn’t try it in 2024. How do you rate the results of that one?
What are you talking about?
The Democrats ran the centrist (again), and vote blue no matter who was the mantra everywhere I looked.
The voters that didn’t fail Kamala.
The voters didn’t fail the Democratic party.
Kamla and the Democratic party failed the voters.
We should have had a primary. I’ll never forgive Biden for that.
I also don’t forgive people who knew better and still didn’t vote for the only viable alternative to Trump.
We have to put together a winning coalition to get these monsters out of power, but that coalition isn’t going to line perfectly with your or my politics. If it did, it would alienate a lot of people to our right, which is probably at least 90% of the country in both our cases. Somebody has to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.
I don’t care if your genocidal psychopathic ass doesn’t forgive me; you’re pure evil. You being mad at us means we’re doing something right. Make note how you don’t have any antipathy for the people to your right (as if it’s possible to be to the right of active genocide).
You helped elect Trump
You’ve been shrieking this for a decade now, it’s not compelling. If you need my vote, stop being a genocidal monster.
You said you wanted a bigger tent, correct? Then you need to win the vote of somebody you blame for Trump.
We already know who you’re going to pick.
No, we all have to come cram into your small tent, right?
if it’s small then we can’t blame them for Trump