Germany has deported 20 people to Afghanistan on what was the first flight directly agreed with the Taliban since the militants’ return to power in 2021

  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    The right to asylum does not depend on whether you’re a nice or very shitty person.

    But it does depend on whether or not you’re a genuine threat to society, which these individuals are.

    So in the eyes of the law they’re redeemed and attoned?

    They’re not German citizens or residents. Germany has no obligation to keep them in the country. They lost their legal status and chance at attaining asylum when they committing the crimes, and they’re no longer allowed in the country once they serve their sentences.

    I’d say yes, very much, it’s an easy case for Afghanistan.

    I’m not sure why you’re willing to go so far to defend literal rapists being deported, but there’s no credible evidence that the Taliban has gone after any of the deportees from the previous deportation rounds that Germany made. These are muslim Afghani men who were rejected from the west, I think the Taliban will embrace them if anything.

    • kossa@feddit.org
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      34 minutes ago

      But it does depend

      No. Here’s the funny thing: having human rights depends on nothing! That is what makes them ‘universal’ and ‘inalienable’.

      chance at attaining asylum when they committing the crimes

      Again not how human rights work. I’m pretty sure that even the state has better reasoning for the deports than you, as this would be such a blatant violation of human rights, that it would be very awkward for Germany.

      go so far to defend literal rapists

      You made that allegation often in this thread. But you do realize that defending the individual and their deed is very different from defending their rights? All those ‘Western’ and ‘Christian’ values? Here we could really show them and fill those words with meaning. Having values and standing for them becomes hard, when you have to apply them to rapists, yes. But that’s also the test, whether you’re serious about those grandiose values.