• Kairos@lemmy.today
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    Universal healthcare would cost the government an additinal $0.00 because Medicare and Medicaid are stupid expensive already.

    • GraniteM@lemmy.world
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      America only ever has one healthcare bill. It is the total amount spent on healthcare, including harm done to people who don’t seek healthcare because it is too expensive, plus all the costs of people going to the emergency room when they have no other option, plus all the people who go into bankruptcy from medical debt. It’s all one total bill, no matter how you spread the math around, and the only question is how much of that money is being wasted on inefficiency and lost to corporate profits. We might as well all keep paying that bill, but figure out ways to reclaim those corporate profits for the people.

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      The US already spends more per-person than most states with socialized medical care. The difference is that in America that money goes to insurance companies and billionaires sitting at home while in socialized medical schemes it goes to doctors and nurses and for medications and facilities.

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        The US already spends more per-person than most states with socialized medical care.

        The US spends more than twice as much per capita on healthcare than every other nation on Earth. You don’t have to water this down with “most”.

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        I think merelly “spends more per-person” is nowhere strong enough to really illustrate how bad things are.

        For example, the United States spends more than TWICE per-person in Healthcare than the United Kingdom.

        In fact judging by this it spends almost twice as much as the European country which has a 69% higher GDP per-capita - Luxembourg.

        And even with such much higher spending levels, based on this healthcare outcomes are actually worse.

        Healthcare in the US is world-beating by a large marge in how spectacularly inneficient it is.

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      US spends more on government healthcare than Canada ($9195/capita vs $5000), which has universal healthcare for all. As % of GDP, for total healthcare, US is 17%, Canada is 12%

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      This country was founded by rich capitalist for rich capitalist. The suffering and the threat of increasing suffering is the point.