-A few days ago, a moderator on Digital Art banned me for supposedly posting “furry” (anthropomorphic animal) art. My works are based on yokai characters (Japanese mythology), kemonomimi (humans with animal ears and tails), and beasts (normal and mythical animals). Nothing falls into the furry category, which is exclusively for anthropomorphic animals. And it should be clarified that I have been posting in that community for months without any warning or comment about my works. I tried to contact her through comments in another community she moderates (I barely use Lemmy to post, and I’m not going to download external apps to open chats just for this, plus I don’t speak English), but she decided to delete them and not speak to me.
(I won’t get into a discussion about this; if you don’t believe me, just look up the terms mentioned. Labeling everything as furry simply because it has an animal percentage is pure ignorance, and I’m fed up with the topic because I’ve explained and shown it a thousand times to some stubborn people. Please don’t try to convince me to use the word “furry” as something universal, because it’s NOT, and I know what I draw and what I don’t.)
This is essentially an argument over what “furry” means.
Obviously, your art means furry to the mod whether you like that or not. This you already knew though because the ban was the 7th action against you in that community.
You can’t say you thought your work was still welcome there after 6 post removals in the previous 7 months. That’s just disingenuous.
As for “I barely use Lemmy to post, and I’m not going to download external apps to open chats just for this, plus I don’t speak English”, this is just bullshit. You put the effort in to learn how to post, and did it in English. This seems a pathetic attempt to bolster how innocent you are trying to seem.
It’s their community to do with as they please. I can see why someone may consider your art furry and why you say it isn’t. Regardless of that, it has been clear to you for 7 months that it wasn’t welcome in that community and you persisted in posting against their rules.
YDI.
Hats the thing about attempting to do the same thing over and over expecting different results?
Just open a new community OP. Calm it furry art and do your own thing. You can’t force other people to accept your own thing
First, I was never notified, and it was a week ago that I saw the deleted posts. Although I don’t have a screenshot of how much time passed, I don’t need to make a big deal out of something that “was fair,” and in this case, it wasn’t. That tactic of taking screenshots of deleted posts to say “we warned you for months” when the ban was only a week ago is cheap manipulation. By deleting the posts recently due to the ban, they create false “evidence” that they try to pass off as a long history of “disobedience.” It’s a way to justify their own incompetence and lack of artistic judgment. If the ban was a week ago, there are no “months” of warnings. They’re trying to rewrite the timeline to make it seem like I’m the “rebel” and you’re the “patient” ones, when in reality, you’re the ones who can’t distinguish a human figure from a furry. Furthermore, I realized something while being “new to Lemmy” that you either don’t or conveniently choose not to mention. The dates you show in your screenshot aren’t from the exact moment the post was deleted; they’re from the moment the post was made. Therefore, your “argument” that “they’ve been deleting them for months” is even more invalid. And I literally realized this by looking at your own deleted comments and posts. How ironic that a newbie foreigner would notice something so convenient, right? So yes, I’m still right that I was banned a week ago without any prior warning.
Second, is this the same old issue of whether I post in English again? Seriously? Some of you seem to think only Americans post here. These sites are universal, and English is used for that purpose, whether you like it or not. I’m noticing a certain condescension regarding this issue, which isn’t even relevant to the case itself. Do you expect me to post in my language when many probably won’t translate it? What a ridiculous argument. The “you don’t know English and you still post” attack is pure xenophobia. On a global platform like Lemmy, using a translator to participate is perfectly valid. Using it as a weapon to invalidate your technical opinion about art is pathetic. Basically, they’re telling you: “You don’t have the right to defend your art if you don’t speak our language perfectly.”
Third, believe me, I did want to contact the moderators, but as I said, messaging on this site doesn’t guarantee that my messages will reach them, and there isn’t even a chat section outside of other apps the site recommends, and I’m not going to register there. Or maybe it’s just my own inability to know where it is or how to use it. I’m not going to mess with something I don’t know.
Fourth, I never said “I don’t know how to post,” read carefully, I wrote “I post on Lemmy and I’m leaving.” You can accuse me of whatever you want, but I didn’t break any rules. They never warned me because I never received any notifications, and that “they deleted it months ago” thing—so why did the posts disappear a week ago? Your accusation doesn’t make sense. I’ve literally been posting since October, and the few posts I published—I never received a single warning, nor did anyone even tell me, “We consider this furry” (even though it isn’t, under any circumstances). If I hadn’t posted my characters, I would have stopped posting, period. I would have posted something else or just left on my own. But if you think I’m such a bad user for defending my art against injustice, that’s your problem. I know what I did and what I didn’t do.
Literally, the only furry thing is the TMNT fanart; the rest aren’t furries. But you guys don’t seem to get that. I’ve been polite, I’ve been patient, but calling me a liar is a whole other level for you. And on top of that, you’re being condescending about the language, as if posting in English, Spanish, Italian, French, or whatever is important. What a way to deflect the issue and make me look like a problem for something you did without even telling me.
Having said all that, because I don’t plan to continue a fight I didn’t start, but rather wanted to end before it became a public circus due to your incompetence. If I’m the villain in your story, fine, I’m not going to keep justifying the obvious; I’ve already made everything crystal clear.
Yeah, lemmy simply doesn’t notify you when a mod takes action against your posts or comments, and it’s not always clear in indicating what has been deleted or not to the user who posted it. It’s a pretty frustrating issue with the software/system.
If the mod doesn’t DM you, or make a comment on the post before they remove it, you won’t be notified.
But the mod logs are time stamped based off when the action was taken. You can look through the code yourself, or I can share a screenshot of multiple mod actions over the course of a few hours against a single post that all have different time stamps (based off the time each action was taken) rather than all having a single timestamp of when the post was made.
Don’t bother trying to explain yourself to these people, anyone who’s trying to justify such severe actions towards someone for furry art or being a furry is already walking a fine line. As I or others have said, anti-furry sentiment is very often a smokescreen for queerphobia, and unfortunately this community has the highest counts of queerphobia, considering its purpose and what it’s about.
I know, when you explain once, it’s fine, twice if you’re generous, but if they ask for three explanations, it’s because the other person is stupid.
You’re responding to multiple people as if they are a single person. I don’t think it’s the multiple people asking you the same thing at the same time that are the problem here.
You can in fact, answer once and just link your other response if it’s so damn frustrating.