Was a gay guy here in Sweden who got assaulted and kidnapped by masked police because some American company had found CSAM on his account while crawling through Yahoo email.
Only it wasn’t CSAM, the photos depicted the man’s 30 year old twinky boyfriend.
No restitution. No police were punished for assaulting a suspect proved innocent. The man and his boyfriend both were humiliated.
I’ve no mixed feelings about it. Spying through private data is entirely unforgivable. There are plenty of pedos out there who get caught and nothing happens anyway. They don’t need to violate innocent people’s privacy to do their job.
Like if the ends justify the means you can end all suffering in the world by just nuking everything. All problems solved.
Oh gods now you have me worried. 20 years ago I was a hundred pounds lighter and just a bag of skin holding a skeleton. There are some photos of me on my Google account that skinny. (also in your medical textbooks but anyways) and I also have photos of me now. We look like completely different people.
never too late to use another service to back up your photos! ente is a good alternative, i personally use proton drive (it’s kind of a crappy interface and not nearly as good as google, but it works). if you’re at all curious about self hosting, immich is basically a 1:1 google photos replacement.
google is our offsite backup. i’ve got a decent onsite already. i haven’t the energy to de-google right now but like, in six months maybe. my todo list is, uh,
I was initially just doing local backups but I decided I wanted something offsite and Ente has been great.
There’s also Immich which is very similar to Google Photos in terms of features, and NextCloud which is a whole cloud suite. These aren’t encrypted by default though so if you use a cloud provider they could realistically also scan through your photos.
i feel you, i still have all my old photos from 2020 and before on google photos. the google takeout function didn’t even work for me, nearly half my photos were missing, so i have to manually download them i suppose. i get anxious still having so much stuff on there, but it’s so hard to migrate off especially after using it for a decade!
i’ve still got to ensure all my photos are off my last phone and on both backups (and that’s important because my dad died when i had that phone) and then make sure all the current phones and photos are backed up, and then make sure the current compy’s documents are backed up and i can try installing mint!
Microsoft has been doing this for years. It was with Onedrive at first but now that they’ve enabled “analytics” in every product that might connect to the internet they can have it all searched.
Supposedly it is first filtered by algorithms but that shit is still being uploaded somewhere other than your hard drive.
I believe it was in preview build versions of Win 7 or 10 where researchers found it was sending the generated thumbnails of images on your PC to Redmond (MS HQ). Can’t remember if they said it was for CSAM detection or just a debugging feature in the preview builds.
Unfortunately, the negative effects from companies like Google turning in completely ethical people for doing things that should be completely legal and uncontroversial will do drastically more damage than the positive effects from said companies turning in the poorest of the pedophiles.
The company is literally building death camps, installing statues of genociders, is run by the RICH pedophiles(who have ZERO interest in seeing pedophiles prosecuted), and is using Palantir and Flock cameras to monitor everything, meanwhile having secret police disappear people and just openly slaughter them.
The United States Government is well beyond deserving the benefit of the doubt.
Great do you have a single example of what you’re claiming, lol. Google turning in a perfectly ethical person for doing something that should be legal and uncontroversial.
You’re moving the goal posts and changing your argument.
Yea I have zero issue with the fact that accounts with pictures of children’s genitals on them should be referred to the the authorities.
If people want privacy, host the pictures locally.
When you’re storing images with a cloud provider. They become responsible for the images that they store. If it’s a photo of a child’s genitals and that’s illegal for them to have those images on their servers and they need to protect themselves.
I am so confused. Did you read the article that you posted??? Are you just straight up defending pedophilia and rape?
The Toronto detective alleges that after the alerts were passed to the RCMP and then Toronto police, she looked at three of the images and found they depicted naked prepubescent girls. The images included an explicit sex act and exposed genitals.
depicted who I believe to be David Edward-Ooi Poon without a shirt, taking a selfie of himself while sticking out his tongue over an unconscious adult female," the search-warrant application states. The document goes on to describe the woman in the photo as naked below the waist and wearing a dark-coloured eye mask over her eyes.
The detective alleges that that photograph and others she examined appeared to be stored in a folder on the iPhone titled “Girls I Drugged And Raped.”
The images included adult females with breasts and genitals exposed “who appeared to be unconscious,” the ITO says. “The body positioning of the females appeared to be limp and did not significantly change throughout the images taken.”
Police allege they found other files on the iPhone that appeared to be “upskirt” images or photographs focusing on the buttocks of females, in folders with names suggesting they were underage girls.
Detectives laid 41 more charges in December including making and possessing child pornography, sexual assault, voyeurism for a sexual purpose and drugging someone to facilitate sexual assault.
Either you can’t read, or you are an incredibly disgusting person.
Nah I copied the wrong link. There’s one about a Swedish dude, but go ahead. Did you not notice you were reading the same article as the thread is about or did you skip reading it the first time?
This literally already happened here in Sweden. A guy got assaulted by masked police in the middle of the night because an American company had gone through photos in his Yahoo mail and flagged his 30 year old boyfriend as possible CSAM.
my issue is that we have a framework for corporations to scan all your data and inform the state. used to stop CSAM, but it’s a matter of state policy wether said structure will be used to fight discent.
“The first image in the ‘Nudity’ collection … depicted who I believe to be David Edward-Ooi Poon without a shirt, taking a selfie of himself while sticking out his tongue over an unconscious adult female,” the search-warrant application states. The document goes on to describe the woman in the photo as naked below the waist and wearing a dark-coloured eye mask over her eyes.
The detective alleges that that photograph and others she examined appeared to be stored in a folder on the iPhone titled “Girls I Drugged And Raped.”
severe mix feelings.
glad they caught him, but corporations casually snooping through your data and report whatever they want is definitely not an good thing
Anyone with the public trust of dealing with patients needs to be scrutinized.
In EU it’s straight out forbidden
looking at account images or pedophilia?
Was a gay guy here in Sweden who got assaulted and kidnapped by masked police because some American company had found CSAM on his account while crawling through Yahoo email.
Only it wasn’t CSAM, the photos depicted the man’s 30 year old twinky boyfriend.
No restitution. No police were punished for assaulting a suspect proved innocent. The man and his boyfriend both were humiliated.
I’ve no mixed feelings about it. Spying through private data is entirely unforgivable. There are plenty of pedos out there who get caught and nothing happens anyway. They don’t need to violate innocent people’s privacy to do their job.
Like if the ends justify the means you can end all suffering in the world by just nuking everything. All problems solved.
Edit: pesos → pedos
Oh gods now you have me worried. 20 years ago I was a hundred pounds lighter and just a bag of skin holding a skeleton. There are some photos of me on my Google account that skinny. (also in your medical textbooks but anyways) and I also have photos of me now. We look like completely different people.
never too late to use another service to back up your photos! ente is a good alternative, i personally use proton drive (it’s kind of a crappy interface and not nearly as good as google, but it works). if you’re at all curious about self hosting, immich is basically a 1:1 google photos replacement.
google is our offsite backup. i’ve got a decent onsite already. i haven’t the energy to de-google right now but like, in six months maybe. my todo list is, uh,
If you care about encryption I’d recommend Ente. They have guides for migrating from Google Photos.
I was initially just doing local backups but I decided I wanted something offsite and Ente has been great.
There’s also Immich which is very similar to Google Photos in terms of features, and NextCloud which is a whole cloud suite. These aren’t encrypted by default though so if you use a cloud provider they could realistically also scan through your photos.
i feel you, i still have all my old photos from 2020 and before on google photos. the google takeout function didn’t even work for me, nearly half my photos were missing, so i have to manually download them i suppose. i get anxious still having so much stuff on there, but it’s so hard to migrate off especially after using it for a decade!
i’ve still got to ensure all my photos are off my last phone and on both backups (and that’s important because my dad died when i had that phone) and then make sure all the current phones and photos are backed up, and then make sure the current compy’s documents are backed up and i can try installing mint!
Microsoft has been doing this for years. It was with Onedrive at first but now that they’ve enabled “analytics” in every product that might connect to the internet they can have it all searched.
Supposedly it is first filtered by algorithms but that shit is still being uploaded somewhere other than your hard drive.
I believe it was in preview build versions of Win 7 or 10 where researchers found it was sending the generated thumbnails of images on your PC to Redmond (MS HQ). Can’t remember if they said it was for CSAM detection or just a debugging feature in the preview builds.
So the precursor to Recall?
Unfortunately, the negative effects from companies like Google turning in completely ethical people for doing things that should be completely legal and uncontroversial will do drastically more damage than the positive effects from said companies turning in the poorest of the pedophiles.
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Example please
The company is literally building death camps, installing statues of genociders, is run by the RICH pedophiles(who have ZERO interest in seeing pedophiles prosecuted), and is using Palantir and Flock cameras to monitor everything, meanwhile having secret police disappear people and just openly slaughter them.
The United States Government is well beyond deserving the benefit of the doubt.
Great do you have a single example of what you’re claiming, lol. Google turning in a perfectly ethical person for doing something that should be legal and uncontroversial.
You’re moving the goal posts and changing your argument.
Here
Lol
“Do your own research”
Ok Karen sure. It’s up to me to prove other peoples random claims that they make on social media. Um no.
Yes, but also it’s the 4th result on that page.
Seems like reading 4 entries is a problem so here is a direct link
Yea I have zero issue with the fact that accounts with pictures of children’s genitals on them should be referred to the the authorities.
If people want privacy, host the pictures locally.
When you’re storing images with a cloud provider. They become responsible for the images that they store. If it’s a photo of a child’s genitals and that’s illegal for them to have those images on their servers and they need to protect themselves.
Try reading the thread
https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/9.7115031
This was posted 9 hours before your whinge
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I am so confused. Did you read the article that you posted??? Are you just straight up defending pedophilia and rape?
Either you can’t read, or you are an incredibly disgusting person.
Nah I copied the wrong link. There’s one about a Swedish dude, but go ahead. Did you not notice you were reading the same article as the thread is about or did you skip reading it the first time?
Lol yes I did notice.
“The wrong link”
“There’s one about a Swedish dude”
The gymnastics you’re going through to avoid actually facts is hilarious.
They’re suggesting it was automated hash based recognition.
I don’t have a problem with CSAM hash matching.
Sure, until it starts flagging normal pictures with its janky AI and you get your door kicked in based on a warrant signed by Google.
This literally already happened here in Sweden. A guy got assaulted by masked police in the middle of the night because an American company had gone through photos in his Yahoo mail and flagged his 30 year old boyfriend as possible CSAM.
Long article in Swedish.
People like to think that Sweden is progressive etc. and I’d rebut it with this. If it can happen here, it could happen anywhere.
my issue is that we have a framework for corporations to scan all your data and inform the state. used to stop CSAM, but it’s a matter of state policy wether said structure will be used to fight discent.
Eventually “sprinkle some crack on him” will turn into “put some CSAM in his google drive”
I agree. We’ve seen this happening in the USA “yes technically they can do that but they would never”. Now we know better.
Doesn’t sound like hashes to me.
That is the result of the search warrant, not the trigger.