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- technology@lemmy.zip
Microsoft’s GitHub next month plans to begin using customer interaction data – “specifically inputs, outputs, code snippets, and associated context” – to train its AI models.
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Jokes on them. All my GitHub code is written by AI.
No shit. GitHub is owned by Microslop. It was only a matter of time.
Surely AI training was the top bullet point on the buy pitch.
Nah, they bought it way before LLMs were a mainstream / realistic thing
Sure, but we were all talking about AI and the data it will need for decades.
Bro, I dont dig this either, but the title is a bit misleading. What they said (and they have been pretty transpartent about it: banner on the site plus email if you have an account) is that they will train their Copilot models from the user interactions with copilot, and you can opt-out.
Now, I know the importance of defaults, but we are talking about Github, a platform for developers, I would REALLY assume these are the people that REALLY are able to toggle a setting to their preference, especially when they have been properly informed about it.
Let’s try to save the indignment for when it is justified, this was not executed in a shady way, I would much rather Microsoft do any policy change this way.
At least thats my opinion lol
It should be opt in, not opt out.
I’ve interacted with way too many developers that would struggle with this, you’re giving them too much credit as a whole
I’m not surprised, companies are starting to realise that AI is only as useful as the data it’s trained on. If you blast it with all the internet slop we have completely unfiltered, it’s going to start fucking up all it’s responses. It’s not just about the volume of data, it’s about the quality of that data. Sites like Github, and academic journals, contain the exact data that companies need to create well rounded LLMs, that don’t go off on racist rants and declare themselves as “MechaHitler”. That makes data like Github’s pure gold.
Counterpoint, I’ve poisoned it with absolute dumb shit and the worst code you’ve ever seen
Thank you for your service 07
Intentionally, right? Right?
Just made an account there myself. Has it worked nicely for you? (I’m assuming so since you recommend it)
There’s really not much locking us in to GitHub. Even moving an existing repo is not that hard. I started using Codeberg a few months ago and have yet to see the downside
Yeah, I’m on forgejo and the grass is just as green.
Unless you want to self host runners to public code — I haven’t figured that out yet. But I run my own server on my own network so I’m not exactly worried about security.
Dont forget to donate to their servers…
I’m keeping my new repo in both GitHub and codeberg, but couldn’t figure out yet a few things:
How do I get unit tests to run on codeberg? I won’t self host it
How do I make jitpack see/checkout/build from codeberg?
FUCK YOU MICROSLOP
Yeah and Github does not let you use an alias for the login email. For real I got shadowbanned (or something similar): I did not see any warning and could not do any search in a repo and noticed my issues went unanswered… because nobody could fucking see them. So I wrote to support and they told me to use a name.surname email address. I told them to fuck off and never logged in again.
Holy shit this is insane!
Microsoft is truly one of the worst companies for the user experience in my opinion. Its like they hate their users.
I have not been accurate. Here was the answer:
GitHub** (GitHub Support)
May 30, 2025, 8:49 AM UTC
Hi there,
Thank you for contacting GitHub Support.
Our abuse detecting systems flagged your account because of the email address you used to register the account. Before we can remove the flag we need you to add and verify a personal, non-disposable, non-aliased email address.
You can add an email address by following the steps here:
https://docs.github.com/github/setting-up-and-managing-your-github-user-account/adding-an-email-address-to-your-github-account
…and you can follow these steps to verify it:
https://docs.github.com/github/getting-started-with-github/verifying-your-email-address#verifying-your-email-address
Once more, we’ll need you to remove the current email address from your account.
To clarify, we don’t need anything ‘traceable’ to you, feel free to use protonmail or tutanota etc. (just examples, we don’t have any particular recommendation here) it just can’t be a “throwaway” or temporary domain for security and deliverability reasons. You are also welcome to connect to GitHub using a VPN or TOR node if and as you wish.
Let us know when you’ve completed these steps and we’ll be happy to review your account again.
**
Github support,
Rio.The alias was/is active, verified and verifiable, I even have TOTP and my fucking phone number on that account, I just checked… So no, thanks, I am not going to send you DNA samples.
Helpful page:
Download all of your GitHub data
Update: Downloaded all my repos using instructions from that link and deleted my GitHub account. Fuck 'em.
It’s funny you think that deleting your account is goanna remove the data.
They will just pull a back up. There’s zero chance these companies are going to risk losing the equivalent of pure gold
Let me guess, you are from the US
Whether they are or not, these companies are. And despite the GDPR or other protections required by EU countries, I highly doubt that these companies will truly honor that. They will just be better about obfuscating it.
I’m already in the process of leaving, not to Codeberg, but to a self-hosted instance of Forgejo.
You won’t regret it. I’ve been using it for about a year now, and it rocks.
I like that I can use it as a container repo too
I mirror the container images I use on my network in case there’s ever a disruption now.
How does it work? Do I still use git commands?
Yes, the only differences are the urls you use when cloning, and the website UI for merge requests and similar. Git is an open source program, github, forgejoe, gitlab, gogs and similar are only managementsoftware for hosting git repositories online.
Date
As of April 24 you’ll be feeding the Octocat unless you opt out
Current scope
The code locker’s revised policy applies to Copilot Free, Pro, and Pro+ customers, as of April 24. Copilot Business and Copilot Enterprise users are exempt thanks to the terms of their contracts. Students and teachers who access Copilot will also be spared.
To opt out (link edited by me to make it clickable)
Those affected have the option to opt out in accordance with “established industry practices” – meaning according to US norms as opposed to European norms where opt-in is commonly required. To opt out, GitHub users should visit github.com/settings/copilot/features and disable “Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training” under the Privacy heading.
Toó much work. It’s easier to just migrate out of that shithole.
How long until that magically reenables itself
Interestingly, mine was still enabled from the last time I must have toggled that setting.
If they do screw around, they could just train on everything without asking anyone
I would bet literally any amount of money that the button doesn’t stop the AI from training on your data.
I hate where society is at right now. I just want to skip ahead to where the social contract makes it standard to prevent this sort of hostile behavior. Or something. I refuse to accept that it’s me, and my age or culture makes me so deeply discordant to current socioeconomic practices.
Next update
Thank you!
Done.
Also, go Team Codeberg.
Thanks for the opt-out link.
Strange, I was already opt-out, must be an European thing. We are “opt-out” to a lot of things going on in the world lately.
That option isn’t there for me.
Do you fall under the affected group? Maybe it’s only listed for those who do
Ah, I must have missed it from your quote. I have copilot through my employer so I probably have Business or Enterprise. Thanks for pointing that out.
Just keep an eye out if you switch jobs or your company changes policies.
No problem :)
I thought they were doing it for years ;)
Assume the worst. Never be surprised
GitHub : the best advertisement for CodeBerg out there !
Honestly this is the final push that’s getting me to move all my repos over.
or sourcehut, i say
Time to dump GitHub for codeberg.
In a move that should shock nobody. I have not made a new repo there for a year, and started to migrate to Codeberg.
GitHub is such a shit hole these days. Half the time, they won’t even let me view a repo unless I’m logged in.
