• 87Six@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    You realize most of what you need in your daily life needs diesel almost everywhere in the chain of logistics, right?

    No? Ah makes sense then.

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      19 hours ago

      Supply chain is the particular area of this I’d pushback pretty hard on and hope it’s diesel use dies off and we have a swift conversion to electrification. You can pretty much run a full supply chain electrified now outside of the manufacturing sector (which is low oil use itself can mostly be supplied internally for most). It just takes the proper upfront investment, which is also the better longterm investment but capitalism only cares about short term gains. Perhaps this will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

      Fertilizer is the one that’s pretty tough to get around, and there’s going to be a humanitarian crisis that we should be thinking about.

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        16 hours ago

        I don’t really see how you can replace the ships and semitrucks that run on diesel unfortunately.

        You can’t really have an electric rail that leads to every logistical hub, and electric semitrucks were a massive failure because they can’t haul as much, for as long of a distance, and they cost way more to operate.

        The only solution is to subsidize such stuff forever.

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          8 hours ago

          Dream bigger! Amazon already has last mile distribution hubs set up every major city. It’s absolutely feasible to run electric rail to major last mile distribution hubs.

          We used to build things very fast in the 1900s in the US. Nowadays not so much.

          On the semi trucks we would need a different solution, either push new battery tech pretty hard or swap to hydrogen. Harder for sure.

          Some ships are already starting to move back to wind sail systems that can increase efficiency by 30%. It’s actually really effective.

          I think we are phenomenal engineers here on earth, we just happen to put all that energy into bombs, targeting systems, etc. We can achieve and do a lot, we’re just focused on the wrong thing.