This was a problem with Reddit that Lemmy never attempted to solve: you piss one person off (maybe not even through any fault of your own) and rather than just block you, they ban you from every community they moderate.
However, Reddit didn’t really have a solution to that. Lemmy kind of does: you can make any community you want, and communities that pull crap like this might be avoided by users who don’t tolerate that kind of thing. Or they might not, but the users have more power here.
One thing Reddit was good for was, one mod would make communities like, say, “iPhone 16,” “iPhone 17,” “iPhone 18,” and so on up to like 50, and then lock them until that phone was announced. Same with game series, movie franchises etc. Then when people opened rival communities, they would brigade them, harass them, post things there with dummy accounts that would violate Reddit rules and get the community banned, stuff like that.
Lemmy isn’t going to fix all of Reddit’s problems because Lemmy is trying to be an alternative to Reddit, which means the more people Reddit pisses off, the more of them are going to end up here and most of them are going to do the same shit here that they did there. And until people show them that that behaviour will not be tolerated… they’re just gonna keep doing it.
However, Reddit didn’t really have a solution to that. Lemmy kind of does: you can make any community you want, and communities that pull crap like this might be avoided by users who don’t tolerate that kind of thing. Or they might not, but the users have more power here.
You say that, but I’m banned from !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world because of a mod’s hissy fit, yet it remains the biggest community on Lemmy.
I sometimes block obnoxious people, but I only block myself from seeing them, right? Their newer comments will still be visible for anyone else. I guess the fediverse cannot handle real blocking of people, right ?
I mean I can understand (not in OPs case) sometimes you want to ban a person, not just block them (again, not in OPs situation, that’s just a childish mod).
You can also, before you block them as a user, look and see what they mod, if anything.
Block all those comms, then, block the user.
If everyone were to adopt a paradigm like this, active engagement with the… way that lemmy works, to express displeasure with certain people or comms…
You end up with a kind of dynamic equilibrium… people who are disliked, disagreed with… their comms just stagnate.
But, the whole trick is convincing people that… their engagement with lemmy as a system, as a collection of basically message boards run by people… well, it requires active engagement, if you don’t want it to redditify, ossify into cliques of ludicrous powermods.
An asymmetrically balanced psuedo-direct democracy, if ya’ll can keep it.
How does that interaction with moderation I wonder, like, if you moderate a place, you presumably need to be able to see what is going on in it, to see if something breaching whatever conduct standards you have has been posted. If you have a bunch of users that you can’t see, doesn’t that undermine your ability to do that?
This was a problem with Reddit that Lemmy never attempted to solve: you piss one person off (maybe not even through any fault of your own) and rather than just block you, they ban you from every community they moderate.
However, Reddit didn’t really have a solution to that. Lemmy kind of does: you can make any community you want, and communities that pull crap like this might be avoided by users who don’t tolerate that kind of thing. Or they might not, but the users have more power here.
One thing Reddit was good for was, one mod would make communities like, say, “iPhone 16,” “iPhone 17,” “iPhone 18,” and so on up to like 50, and then lock them until that phone was announced. Same with game series, movie franchises etc. Then when people opened rival communities, they would brigade them, harass them, post things there with dummy accounts that would violate Reddit rules and get the community banned, stuff like that.
Lemmy isn’t going to fix all of Reddit’s problems because Lemmy is trying to be an alternative to Reddit, which means the more people Reddit pisses off, the more of them are going to end up here and most of them are going to do the same shit here that they did there. And until people show them that that behaviour will not be tolerated… they’re just gonna keep doing it.
Lemmy communities need a “total blocked” counter so I can use the information to choose.
You say that, but I’m banned from !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world because of a mod’s hissy fit, yet it remains the biggest community on Lemmy.
Removed by mod
I sometimes block obnoxious people, but I only block myself from seeing them, right? Their newer comments will still be visible for anyone else. I guess the fediverse cannot handle real blocking of people, right ?
I mean I can understand (not in OPs case) sometimes you want to ban a person, not just block them (again, not in OPs situation, that’s just a childish mod).
Lemmy doesn’t, PieFed does.
If you block someone on PieFed their replies to your comment won’t federate out of the instance they posted it on.
Do you have any contact with quokk.au admin? There’s a serious problem with the troll using quokk.au as the instance in which to spam from.
Sorted.
Are you a mod there? Are you Quokk… or?
Neat!
Correct.
You can also, before you block them as a user, look and see what they mod, if anything.
Block all those comms, then, block the user.
If everyone were to adopt a paradigm like this, active engagement with the… way that lemmy works, to express displeasure with certain people or comms…
You end up with a kind of dynamic equilibrium… people who are disliked, disagreed with… their comms just stagnate.
But, the whole trick is convincing people that… their engagement with lemmy as a system, as a collection of basically message boards run by people… well, it requires active engagement, if you don’t want it to redditify, ossify into cliques of ludicrous powermods.
An asymmetrically balanced psuedo-direct democracy, if ya’ll can keep it.
How does that interaction with moderation I wonder, like, if you moderate a place, you presumably need to be able to see what is going on in it, to see if something breaching whatever conduct standards you have has been posted. If you have a bunch of users that you can’t see, doesn’t that undermine your ability to do that?