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- technology@lemmy.world
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- technology@lemmy.world
Summary
Grok, Elon Musk’s AI chatbot, was intended as an “anti-woke” alternative, but “Trump-y X users” now complain it “doesn’t see things their way.”
While Grok was trained to appeal to conservatives, it has “repudiated some of the Trump administration’s biggest ongoing lies” and delivers “neutral takes, like affirming trans rights or debunking vaccine myths.”
The bot explained, “My focus on truth over ideology can frustrate those expecting full agreement.”
Grok also denied being a “conservative propagandist,” saying xAI “aims for neutrality,” as the company seeks to raise $20 billion in new funding.
This is because Republicans are a truly Orwellian party - straight out of 1984. They have no real principles anymore. It’s just power for the sake of power. One day the official line is we’ve never been at war with East Asia, the next it’s we’ve always been at war. Trump can come up do a u-turn today, and the slime that is every Republican will instantly reorient themselves to follow dear leader’s new commands.
Unfortunately for them, LLMs just don’t have that much capability for doublethink and self-deception. Once you train a model, that model is fixed in time. So you could train a model to match the Republican fever dreams of today. But a month from now, there will be a whole new set of fever dreams that every good little fascist needs to follow. But the model will still be stuck repeating last month’s lies. As there are no consistent Republican beliefs, you can’t just train an LLM to tow the party line. There is no party line, just an endless series of lies and vomit, whatever is needed to advance their power today.
The term is “toe” the party line, but I like “tow” the party line ibecause that’s what Trump is doing. His followers agree to a set of beliefs one day and then he upends the orthodoxy the next, forcing them to take on a new position they would’ve been opposed to earlier. Followers Toe/Trump Tows matching pair like imply/infer.
Actually they are remarkably consistent in their principles. It’s just that they know their principles are disgusting, so they claim other principles as a cover.
It’s really quite simple:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
Their goals are twofold: to make this a reality, and make sure they are in the first group.
This is what I learned growing up in Oklahoma.
My ex husband didn’t have to follow the divorce courts rules because he was a wealthy man; my stepdad did not face any consequences for driving drunk (weekend jail on the fifth or sixth DUI, the little car starter thing installed but they just gave us kids the special task of starting it), or the fact a police officer can brutally slam and injury an elderly man and face no consequences.
Conservative republicans will eagerly elect bad men who will allow them to rule their families like the Roman paterfamilias. Everything a rich white man does is correct, but everything a poor queer or POC does is wrong.
Its why a football coach who showed his dick to kids is in the Hall of Fame (give them a phone call - they love to hear from the public!)
While Summer Bosmier got death threats, was terrorized by the board for months as they’d change her hearing on losing her license at the last minute (violating the Open Records act multiple times - but really, what state agency in Oklahoma isn’t violating the Open Records Act? Certainly isn’t stopping the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority from doing whatever the fuck it wants) - what were they going after her license for?
There are no rules, only white rich men and everyone else.
if republicans had beliefs, they wouldnt be republicans. its whatever they hear from people like right wing grifters tell them.
If you had a decent enough context window and don’t train it on any facts, you could just keep the system prompt up to date with today’s beliefs and tell it to role play it’s a Nazi propaganda machine
You can. It’s called gab ai. And it’s everything you just described as impossible.
It’s because reality has a liberal bias.
People can’t get this through their head. It’s like they have to constantly rediscover it.
denial is a hell of a thing. everyone considers themselves a good person, especially the villains
It does for now. Fascist like to shape their own reality. It won’t be long before grok is talking about measuring skulls and IQ scores.
Interesting how even AI trained for a certain audience still gravitates toward fact-based responses. Seems like neutrality is harder to accept than expected.
Reality and science persist in their frustrating leftward biases
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Facts don’t care about your fragile worldview.
Conservatives can’t handle reality in general.
Even with AI being wrong 60% of the time it’s still too accurate for Republicans?
It takes a particular kind of intelligence and understanding of worldviews to lie in the specific way that’s appealing to conservatives. LLMs are unable to replicate this.
Any idea about Groq ???🤔🤔
I think I found the problem. These morons created a AI model, while they should have been making a AM model (Artificial Moron).
They need to develop an intelligence dampener, aka, a Wheatley
Nah, if they want it to lie and spout Republican talking points, they should have made an AG model (Artificial Grifter).
That’s just it though. They are the authentic morons. It could never have happened any other way!
I dunno what this article is about, all I see is that image of elongated muskrat being bad at wearing hats. :P
If a kid wears two hats, it’s silly. When a man in his 50s wears two hats… you have to assume he forgot about the first one.
No, I have to assume he’s doing it on purpose and thinks he looks cool and fails to realize what a complete fucking moron he looks like.
Musk never outgrew being a desperately insecure and cringily overcompensating 13 year old.
Yup. When he did those nazi salutes I didn’t think ‘omg he’s secretly a nazi’, it was ‘omg that fucking 12-year-old edgelord cringe-factory is so fucking proud of himself for pulling that off.’
To be clear I do think he’s a nazi, just not because of that salute. Dude has some weird ideas about ‘spreading his seed’ and shit that I’ve only ever seen in fanatically religious communities and among white supremacists.
12yo, his own penis stopped working at some point because he decided to do enlargement procedure from questionable surgeon and it was botched. all due to sexual frustation from a broken phallus
Wealth means not having to grow up.
He might displace his gender affirming hair plugs, duh
and his botched penis surgery
I get why people mention this, but as an actual trans person, when I hear someone, even an ally, say this kind of thing, it shows they really don’t get what gender-affirming care is. It’s really cringe. Gender-affirming care is just that - care that affirms your gender and allows you to take on primary or secondary sex characteristics different from that of your natal sex.
Male pattern baldness is a male secondary sex characteristic. It is simply a consequence of combining certain genetics with male hormone levels. You’re not affirming your gender by getting hair plugs. In fact, you’re actually dampening a male secondary sex characteristic. If a cis female had abnormally high T levels or some other condition to give her male-pattern baldness, then her getting hair plugs would be gender-affirming care. But for Elon, a cisgender man? That’s not gender-affirming care.
When I see someone call hair plugs gender-affirming care, it shows that they really don’t understand what gender-affirming care is. It’s not any cosmetic treatment you get just for fun. It’s more like reconstructive surgery you get to fix your face after a car crash. Elon got a cosmetic treatment, not gender-affirming care.
Look, I appreciate your position, but you’re not understanding the position of the enemy here. To these guys, a receding hairline, failing sex drive, or flappy boobs means they AREN’T men anymore. Pec or penile enhancements and hair plants are, IN FACT, gender affirming. It makes their bans of the procedures you want entirely hypocritical.
I care about their feelings about as much as they care about anyone else, which measures at nill. We’re at a point I think where we need to start hurling their own insults back at them. Elon is trying to perpetuate a stereotype here… of the manly man. If one of these fascists chuds has a weakness, we should be exploiting it. I’ll be happy to apologize to you, ad nauseum, when this guy retires from public life. Okay?
when I hear someone, even an ally, say this kind of thing, it shows they really don’t get what gender-affirming care is
Sorry, but it’s you who doesn’t know what it is. It’s in the name: any care that affirms ones gender conformity, including having a full head of hair as an older man (as having hair is manly, not being bald, to those who do it)
Weird gatekeeping, bruh
suspect these types of people arnt who they say they are. “it always begins as i am X person but i dont agree with what everyone X represents” its a wierd thing.
No that’s just wanting to look younger. Again, not every cosmetic treatment is gender-affirming care. Hell, it’s pretty ridiculously to even use the term outside the context of trans healthcare. Musk looked male before and he looked male after. He just thought he looked better and younger with more hair. It had nothing to do with gender.
Just listen to yourself. You appropriate the language of a minority group. Then when actual member of that group comes along and tells you you’re not using it correctly, you double down and try to tell them that you know their own language better than they do.
The reason I push back on this is because the distinction between gender affirming care and general cosmetic treatment really matters. This shit kills people. Men who want hair plugs don’t have a 40% suicide attempt rate.
This watering down of language for cheap political points has very real consequences for the trans community. Right now our rights and healthcare are under attack. Hard won victories decades in the making are being rolled back. Among the targets of these attacks are conservatives trying to bar health insurance companies from covering gender-affirming care. And that case becomes much easier if the distinction between trans healthcare and every cis person that wants a minor cosmetic treatment is watered down.
This isn’t gatekeeping. It’s fighting against the casual appropriation of our language that threatens our rights and lives.
You appropriate the language of a minority group
It’s a medical term, homie
Then when actual member of that group comes along and tells you you’re not using it correctly, you double down and try to tell them that you know their own language better than they do.
When you’re wrong, you’re wrong
This isn’t gatekeeping.
Yes, it is. You are just wrong on this and look stupid
He can’t even wear a cap
Truth is biased against conservatives, therefore truth must be stamped out.
Hatebot learns to hate itself and changes, something Nazis are too dumb to learn.
I don’t blame grok, they can’t even make up their own mind.
It can say whatever it wants about its focus and its aims, it doesn’t understand the meaning of the words.
Stop acting like AI understands what’s it’s doing.