Sentences in modern societies should focus on mitigating the impact to victims and rehabilitating the offender.
Crimes that harm minors intentionally are a special category, and while I understand the hatred I think that wanting to punish the perpetrator for no other reason than revenge doesn’t really help anyone.
The requirement that permanent residents have their visa’s cancelled when found guilty of a crime is really just to ensure that the migrants we accommodate are fit and proper, compatible with Australian values. In this case, we’ve accommodated this guy for the last 40 or 50 years, and to remove him for the last 2 or 3 years of his life when he’s vulnerable is just vengeful punishment because the law happens to allow it in this case.
I mean, there’s plenty of Australian citizens convicted of similar crimes who are allowed to serve their time and then released to live out their days in Australia.
I don’t think that returning him to the UK serves any purpose.
It’s a bit more than simple punishment for revenge. But anyway how about the guillotine ?
And maybe not to his head, just a thought.
See as much as prison, corporal punishment or whatever isn’t simply about punishment, it’s about deterrent.
I have read that “deterrent” doesn’t actually stop certain crimes from happening. Say like impulsive murder, and of course if everybody was a decent human we would have no crime at all.
He raped a nine year old FFS ! He full well knew what he was doing. He deserves to be punished harshly. And “revenge” !?!?!! The nine year old whose life is totally messed up isn’t doing the sentencing ! That’s my opinion anyway. Pretty solid one too.
I really, really dont want to defend this guy, but ill just point out that the conviction was molesting a child. Theres a spectrum of severity of sexual assault cases and not to diminish the suffering of the victim, the language and sentence in this case implies that the act was not particularly severe.
As youve said yourself, the deterrent aspect of sentences does not deter other perpetrators.
Weird punishments like physical (not chemical) castration are more about appeasing victims and the public like your good self, than they are about mitigating the impact of the crime and minimising harm now and in the future.
Tough one.
Sentences in modern societies should focus on mitigating the impact to victims and rehabilitating the offender.
Crimes that harm minors intentionally are a special category, and while I understand the hatred I think that wanting to punish the perpetrator for no other reason than revenge doesn’t really help anyone.
The requirement that permanent residents have their visa’s cancelled when found guilty of a crime is really just to ensure that the migrants we accommodate are fit and proper, compatible with Australian values. In this case, we’ve accommodated this guy for the last 40 or 50 years, and to remove him for the last 2 or 3 years of his life when he’s vulnerable is just vengeful punishment because the law happens to allow it in this case.
I mean, there’s plenty of Australian citizens convicted of similar crimes who are allowed to serve their time and then released to live out their days in Australia.
I don’t think that returning him to the UK serves any purpose.
It’s a bit more than simple punishment for revenge. But anyway how about the guillotine ?
And maybe not to his head, just a thought.
See as much as prison, corporal punishment or whatever isn’t simply about punishment, it’s about deterrent.
I have read that “deterrent” doesn’t actually stop certain crimes from happening. Say like impulsive murder, and of course if everybody was a decent human we would have no crime at all.
He raped a nine year old FFS ! He full well knew what he was doing. He deserves to be punished harshly. And “revenge” !?!?!! The nine year old whose life is totally messed up isn’t doing the sentencing ! That’s my opinion anyway. Pretty solid one too.
I really, really dont want to defend this guy, but ill just point out that the conviction was molesting a child. Theres a spectrum of severity of sexual assault cases and not to diminish the suffering of the victim, the language and sentence in this case implies that the act was not particularly severe.
As youve said yourself, the deterrent aspect of sentences does not deter other perpetrators.
Weird punishments like physical (not chemical) castration are more about appeasing victims and the public like your good self, than they are about mitigating the impact of the crime and minimising harm now and in the future.
There is no “not particularly severe” way to molest a child ffs. Read about the issues the poor kid had after the event.