• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Sure seems like a roundabout way of just… being in the EU.

    Are you British, by chance? What’s the mood on Brexit these days?

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      14 hours ago

      The Brexit crowd have gone conspicuously silent about it. Their lack of crowing says a lot about it.

      Even before Brexit, the tide had turned, and that’s only gotten stronger. Unfortunately, the government had their vote and hammered it through. (The fact there was an EU rule change, on tax transparency, the next day, and would have embarrassed a lot of rich UK toffs had NOTHING to do with the timing)

      Unfortunately, the reform party is far too strong, and trying to drag us to the extreme right. Our “left wing” primary party (Labour) is now further right than the conservatives (center right party) traditionally sit.

      It’s… frustrating.

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        13 hours ago

        That sounds… British. Frustrating, in a frustratingly orderly way.

        Outside far-right politics must be making reform look bad in the UK though. Right? Like Hungary, Turkey, whatever’s going in Germany…

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          13 hours ago

          We are in a media bubble. Basically all our media is owned by a few rich arseholes and they bury a lot of anti right messages.

          The BBC used to be remarkably honest and independent from government. The conservatives getting their claws into it was the beginning of the real problems. Even worse, the BBC’s impartiality has been so sacrosanct that a lot of older people just believe it.

          A mild bit of light. The green party seems to also be making significant advances. Labour have often played the “don’t split the left vote” card on them. Now it looks like green is overtaking them in some areas. It just doesn’t show up well in a FPTP voting system.

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            13 hours ago

            Ah, moguls + FPTP strike again.

            Yeah, I can see Green gaining traction as climate/environmental problems start to grow. The British Isles are relatively sensitive. Though it seems Green has had its own controversy (kinda like the small parties here in the US have).

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              The UK is still a lot more multi party at the lower levels of government, compared to the US. Unfortunately it’s erring towards the US system, rather than away from it.