Microsoft dangles $1 million prizes and Mercedes-AMG cars inside Edge as persistent pop-ups potentially spark fresh “bribery” backlash.
“our browser is so good, we have to offer bogus prizes to get people to switch to it!”
I can use Edge. I offer cloud based edge user experience for $14.99 monthly. Microslop is free to reach out to me any time so we can hammer out an agreement. Smugface.jpg
They’re just making themselves look trashy and desperate.
What might work is making their software better than everyone else’s. But that requires effort and skill and managerial competence.
All of whom Microsoft doesnt posses.
I bet they still have some good devs who are continually thwarted by management.
Yeah the Power Toys devs seem solid
I mean they’re exclusively writing tools for power users for eventual implementation to mainline as they develop and test simplification that doesn’t alienate the power user… So managers can’t really say they’re doing anything bad or dumb ever because it’s power user features then porting.
Ye, ofc. Just let the good devs cook!
Just imagining Clippy in front of a cracked mirror, “jessss a little more rouge and you can’t have too much mascara…”
Would you fuck me? I’d fuck me. - Clippy
https://quokk.au/c/clips/p/784512/nice-hat
You can always trust AI for fashion advice.
But if we are being honest, if you don’t care about privacy, it is a good browser. Its better than chrome. You can check the performance of of both on the same machine. It also has better pdf rendering.
It’s trash. It front pages clickbait and bullshit, has no privacy, and with so many other options why bother?
I am not saying you should use it, i was addressing app quality. The original commenter wasn’t talking about business practices but app quality. Which is why isaid “privacy aside”. Privavcy is very important and i would never have someone use chrome or edge but that wasnt the topic.
You could paint it gold with premium genuine alpaca leather interiors, and I would still not use it.
It’s only function is to download a better browser.
He didn’t say it was the best, only that it was better than Chrome.
You don’t need it for that.
winget install Mozilla.Firefox.enalthough microsoft even stole winget :-(
Was an interesting read. Ty :)
Always learning. Thanks!
One of the last things I used to respect about Microsoft was when they kept up the development of their own rendering engine, even as Chrome ran away with its popularity. IE6 was a monster, but for a time MS was doing a good job as an underdog by pushing standards compliance. Even if it wasn’t as nice as Firefox, it was important to have more horses in the game of competing browsers rather than creating a monoculture around Chrome.
Needless to say, the Edge appearing in this contest is nothing like what I ever had hope for.
This disease is simply testing AI systems on your browsing data. It’s trying to collect data from your services and analyze it with AI. That’s all. If something is offering you big rewards, free services, or discounts, it’s probably using you as material for its services.
Awwww, silly little Microsoft is upset the browser monopoly isn’t theirs
I used to use Edge at home, then ditched it. I used it recently at work and it is getting really enshittified. Now I’m between Cromite which works until suddenly the interface freezes, or Ungoogled Chromium which I haven’t got to work on the work laptop (it works now on my home Linux so whatever).
Edge used to be so much better before today.
Try out Firefox. It works incredibly well
Or Librewolf, which is a fork from Firefox and removes the telemetry that Firefox collects.
That’s too extreme for most people. A lot of people do want certain services to remember they logged in for example. Waterfox is typically the better recommendation - or, was. I’m less trusting of them after they chose to use Brave Browser code for an AdBlocker
I do use Firefox as well, for non-work activities at home and in the office.
Edge before it adopted Chromium was an excellent browser - fast, standards compliant, rock solid. Adopting Chromium is basically them doing the absolute minimum to ship a browser at all without showing someone else’s logo. We use Edge at work - Chrome and Firefox are also supported - and it shocking how many MDM policies we have to have to make Edge usable.
Native persistent pop-up that doesn’t go away and stays on multiple tabs is truly the best way to advertisme your browser /s
We started to use ad blockers in the early 2000s because no one could trust they were the 999,999 visitor to the website.
It sounded (and stills sounds) scammy.
It started with pop-up blockers.
Opera was the first major browser to incorporate tools to block pop-up ads; the Mozilla browser later improved on this by blocking only pop-ups generated as the page loads.[citation needed] In the early 2000s, all major web browsers except Internet Explorer let users block unwanted pop-ups almost completely. In 2004, Microsoft released Windows XP SP2, which added pop-up blocking to Internet Explorer. -Wikipedia
Hey Microsoft, how about innovating instead? Edge is a Chrome engine browser like dozens of others out there. Why not write a new browser engine to give customers a choice? Or at worst, how about contract with Apple to license Webkit bringing a third solid choice for a browser engine to Windows. You’re not going to out-Chrome Google Chrome browser, so stop trying.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and play the devil’s advocate. Edge actually makes a lot of optimisations and improvements that are merged into upstream chrome. While Microsoft is the shady corp that is forcing the ai garbage and data collection, the Devs are actually very competent.
Edge has one huge benefit which causes me to use it across Windows, Linux and even android and that is extension support on all even mobile. No other chrome based android browser has mobile extensions and a competent or seamless sync both figured out. I like being able to check something on my phone and seamlessly pick it up on any other device.
I like Vivaldi’s workflow but they have yet to add mobile extensions.
You want another version of IE?
Right now, Chrome is basically IE6. It rushes in standards with little compliance, bloats your memory, and everyone is forced to use it. All browsers are just skins, and if Google’s recent Android moves are any indication, they’ll likely close off source at some point so they can load it through with spyware.
In terms of making a bad situation slightly better, I’d be in favor of MS re-vamping their browser division. It has little to do with AI or murdering Palestinians though, so I doubt they will.
As a web developer, I would happily support current chrome over literally any version of IE. It’s not even a contest.
The majority of standards are properly implemented in chrome, and it tends to be edge cases that are not. Whereas for IR you needed IE specific “hacks” to do a number of everyday things.
Of course they’re implemented properly in Chrome. They wrote those standards, and pushed them through without review. Hence why technologies like WebRTC and simple gradients had about 8 half-working implementations in Chrome, while the later IE team put a hand up and said “Hang on, let’s implement this the right way and agree on a spec.”
The way you describe IE-specific hacks was true up through around IE9. Once they got to Edge, they retired importance of major versions and insisted people auto-update their browser, getting companies off the idea of retaining an old browser for “compatibility”.
They were doing the right thing for a short time before the end. I suppose a lot of people didn’t even see that period.
I’d need a reason to use Edge. If it used a different browser engine, that would be a compelling reason.
Did you use IE when it was still around? Edge is their “new” offering, because of how terrible their own engine was. Moving back to their own engine would be a step backwards.
They might with a built in ad blocker 🙃
Thats the description of both Vivaldi and Brave browsers, which also haven’t out-Chromed Chrome. Both are Chrome engine with built in ad blockers.
Exactly, the average person using installing browser add-ons. They want a lightweight, simple browser from a familiar brand that just works. Adblocking alone isn’t enough to convince Average Joe to switch, when they don’t even know that adblockers exist.
Literally, one of the richest companies in the world and can’t figure this out.
Edge is a Chrome engine browser like dozens of others out there. Why not write a new browser engine to give customers a choice?
they tried that with Edge 1.0
Writing your own rendering engine that works exactly like chrome, has the same features and preferably no exploits is not something you or even a big company can whack out in a week or so. You need to support js, css, html, hardware acceleration, https, certificate checks, support notifications, location, camera and mic, video play and a whole lot of other features you take for granted. A modern browser is light years away from the first browsers that came out around 2000.
Yeah and the only good thing about it back then was the PDF viewer tbh
Bro yapping about something he knows fuck all about. MS has contributed a ton to upstream Chromium, from page rendering improvements to improved efficiency for battery consumption.
Not about to listen to supposed expertise from a comment that begins with “Bro yapping”, lmfaooo
No need to trust. They gave very concrete references that would be easy to check.
Ok boomer
Let me guess… Existing users are excluded from participating? Cause I ain’t got no pop up banner anywhere. Or is cause I’m European?
You’re not as much excluded as not included (in the shortlist. Are you a relative to gates?).
Would I be here with a free account if I were? ✌️
Checkout Heluim Browser (GitHub) instead, but keep in mind that they don’t have auto-update. But you can add their windows GitHub repo to your RSS reader to be alerted of any new updates: https://github.com/imputnet/helium-windows/releases.atom
Edit 1:… Why am I being downvoted?
It looks like they have automatic updates by now
Are you sure?
I downloaded it 2 weeks ago and it had no auto updates warning.
I went with custom setup and all the options were there
On Windows?
Yep
I dunno? You had my upvote but I didn’t follow the link. No auto update. RSS reader? :) The typo?
I’ll now go give it a peek 😉
Oh man, I needed that. A good belly shaking laugh.
Does Edge support Linux? Actually, never mind. I’m good.
Should you ever feel the urge to do something wild and stupid: yes, actually Microsoft offers an official Linux version of Edge.
Currently, for some inexplicable reason, Teams calls are broken on my Debian Trixie in all browsers except edge. I suspect foul play.
Use Ferdium. Works flawlessly.
Wow, they finally got Teams to work in Edge?
That’s crazy. It must just be super easy considering it’s chromium now.
I have edge installed on my steam deck, I used it to play bf6 on game pass before they jacked up the price last year.
Yes but they do zero tests on the build, if it compiles, it ships. For example it crashes if you try to open a file dialog and the copilot button is not working and can’t be hidden
Flatpak
Wow, the days of dodgy toolbar extensions never truly went away. They just evolved to become part of your operating system.
The thing that actually baffles me about this is how this looks in the face of their next major competitor in the consumer market, Apple and their macOS.
macOS (or any other Apple product) has never (to my knowledge) had anything like this and it would be extremely out of character for Apple to suddenly change that. With all other manufacturers raising prices (including the Surface as of today) and the MacBook Neo directly competing with the mid tier PC laptops, this is what Microsoft decides to do?
At some point, one would hope that the average user starts to ask the question, can I have a computer that won’t pull this bullshit on me? But I think unfortunately most typical users (especially anyone daily driving Edge) just think there’s too much friction to move away from Windows, and so they stay, continuing to get fucked in the ass by megacorps.
But hey, I’m not in the running for a free car like them. Not like I’ll install Edge onto my Mac or Arch Linux computer and sync my shit with OneDrive.
