France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
I have a burner but it seems like you need to create social media accounts filled with non political content and keep them updated so they don’t look fake. Anyone know how to automate this?
don’t do this. it’s a waste of your time. if you’re actually scared of the us government, the answer is to stop using social media
The answer is to stop visiting the US.
Amazing to think that they criticised “freedom of speech” in Europe
Freedom for me but not for thee
I am going to die in a concentration camp before 2028
if we are poop buddies i will share my sardines with you
The US has turned in Russia for real. Russians were checking phones at the border when the war started.
usa was always “Russia”. The difference is usa have a massive propaganda apparatus to make us think you are the goodies and who are the baddies
Okay so the “Don’t travel to the US right now” aside, do people these days still not understand that border crossing are a sensitive location?
Like, literally, anywhere you go, the first thing you should do before leaving is encrypt and reinstall / factory reset (which should delete all encryption keys to the old data) the devices. And if you have very sensitive stuff, use a disk overwrite program, and for phones start recording a video with the phone aimed at like a wall (and turn off the audio recording). Leave it recording overnight and it should fill up your phone. Use 4K recording to fill the storage faster. Then just wipe the phone again. Now, DONT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED SENSITIVE. Load the phone with innocuous things like pet photos, nature, etc… and act like a “normie”. Don’t have anything critical of any politician, especially not of the country you’re visiting, nor of its allies. Its best to not have any social media apps, preferrably, you should never post things under your name, but if you already did have such accounts, delete them.
If they ask you “Do you have any social media accounts” you say “I don’t recall having any” or “I don’t think so” and “I’m not the type of person to use social media”. Or alternatively, you can have a social media account that have only non-political posts, and show then that.
Translation: if you’re going to the US you might have to immediately find a flight back because their government might go through your phone and find out that you rightfully criticised their great orange leader. Glad I managed to visit before, America can go and choke on their aspirations.
The Nazis literally did this with a law. They made it illegal to be critical of the party. Fuck the alarm, we’ve already been had.
Might as well start wearing red triangles now🔻
Yup. “But we’re not there yet”, so they say. “Too soon to act rashly”.
'First they started mass deportations, but it wasn’t a corrupt system yet, so we did not act.
Then they started refusing people who were critical of them, but it wasn’t a corrupt system yet, so we did not act.
Then they started blatantly taking money from the poor and give it to the rich, but it wasn’t a corrupt system yet, so we did not act.
Finally they fully took over the nation, but by then all the people who would have acted were already gone and dealt with.’
Not all, but the gist of it. Thankfully some bubbles of resistance are starting to form in the US, but the main people who were elected to uphold the law and fight this democraticly are already bribed or blackmailed, so it’s in great part up to the people, and whatever stance the army ends up taking when they are forced to choose between loyalty to the constitution, or an individual.
the scientists were smart enough to flee Germany or places that nazis occupied. i see this going to happen with USa if not already, US already has a problem with shortages in some areas of stem. its a complex set of problems all around, this latest fiasco just adds into it.
This is dark. They aren’t bothering to hide what’s going on anymore.
Usually I respect the honesty more than the subterfuge.
But when it’s Nazi’s. Nope. Wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.
Sounds like a case of “MAGA snowflake syndrome” smh
Actual TDS. In that TDS is anyone who likes that fascist.
Always has been
Funny that the US has become more like Russia since Trump was elected.
What? A scientist who is critical of Trump?? How can that be???
or one that contradicts him, aka fauci.
Republicans are really mad that reality has a left wing bias
There tends to be a general distaste toward politicians in general among the scientific community.
How strange that all the people who think don’t like Trump?
How’d they get into his phone? Face or fingerprint?
Make sure you turn off biometrics before traveling. They can’t force you to disclose a passcode.
EDIT: Actually, if you have to travel to the USA, wipe your phone before you leave.
IIRC they can compel you to unlock your phone. Or just deny you entry if you don’t. It’s best to make sure you travel with a ‘clean’ phone and PC, border patrol got ridiculous powers in the patriot act and nobody’s ever rolled any of it back despite decades of abuses.
Since when did travel to the US become worse than to Russia? This is shocking…
ive seen people buy budget/used phones and leave thier main ones at home.
or avoid going to america
I’ve been very purposefully avoiding the US ever since the Patriot Act exactly because it became possible for the TSA to riffle through your electronics (even confiscate them) and do this kind of shit.
Then on top of that festering pit of autocracy which, by the way, nobody reversed in all this time, Trump added the risk of ICE detention and “free trip to El Salvador (to go check a mega prison there)”.
Yep, 12 years of Democrats in charge and none of them did anything to reign in this whole apparatus that could easily be abused by an autocrat. Now Trump has a turnkey surveillance state that can be turned on anyone in the country. All your internet traffic, current location, licence plate readers, face recognition, etc. It was all created to alternately catch terrorists or pedophiles, and now Trump is going to use it against anyone he doesn’t like.
And it’s not like nobody was warned, there was plenty of dissent about the patriot act from experts and the people, but politicians were just like ‘don’t worry, it’ll only be used against terrorists’. Guess what, everyone’s going to be deemed a terrorist now. They’re trying to charge Luigi with terrorism already (and those are state charges in a Democratic state).
Definitely.
As a Latin American, the US is the very last county I want to visit on the entire continent. Literally the only thing that I kind of want to see there is the Lego store in NYC.
Better off going to Legoland in Denmark in that case.
They can still make your life difficult though. I think the better option is don’t fly into or through US territory if you can help it.
Get a burner for ANY international travel.
Consider it an insurance expense as a part of the trip.
They will also ask you for your password for online accounts and refuse entry if you don’t. And as we have all seen recently that does not necessarily mean “next flight home”.
people can make social media accounts full of soft core rat erotica just for travel purposes.
John Oliver? Is it really you?
Just don’t come here unless you have to. And get a burner if you do come.
If you have an android device, setup a second user account with nothing on it and use that when going through customs.
I mean, you might fool them. But its best to just backup everything to a Non-US cloud provider in an encrypted format, and wipe the device before leaving. I wouldn’t rely on the “multi-user” trick. Who knows what forensics tools they have.
How’d they get into his phone? Face or fingerprint?
I was looking for this as well. It seems like a rather important piece of info for the article to leave out.
Here’s how the borders work:
“Sir/Ma’am, please unlock your device”
“No”
“Entry Denied”
(Except for US Citizens, they cannot be denied entry* even if they refuse to unlock their device, however, their devices could be confiscated
*for now)
Hey, that’s a good thing in my book, I guess.
Same way as America prospered with talent fleeing a corrupt Europe in the past, now Europe can get that lost talent back from a corrupt America. The more they feel unwelcome and undervalued the more they will flock or stay wherever their talent can flourish and advance our progress as a society.
No complaints from me on that. 🤷♂️
Once the funding dries up the talent will be forced to leave. The question is, is Europe prepared to take advantage? I’m not so sure- the worst outcome would be talent just being squandered and the world ending up with a lost decade.
Haha, I’ll never get into the USA. Trump is a snowflake melted on a turd and he can fuck a melon.
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immigration officers at an airport searched his phone
There’s no mention in the article if this search was voluntary, or not.
Edit: For the downvoters, please point out where I was wrong; I’d honestly really like to know if it was voluntary or not.
It’s “voluntary” in the sense that either you allow it or you don’t get into the country.
That’s forced. Since when was it a thing?
Since, like the moment I learned about the US Borders.
It’s always been a thing, you see a lot of these in r/privacy and now c/pricacy
Only US Citizens can refuse the search and still enter* but their devices could still be confiscated.
*for now
I have a quote above. As SF said, agents who do that would be violating court rulings.
Since the PATRIOT Act at least, but possibly since Reagan’s Executive Order 12333.
Looks like there is also a court case from 1977 that is related.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception
Every border patrol agent within 100 miles of any US border has this authority and has for a looooong fucking time.
It’s honestly a little shocking this isn’t more well known.
A 2-1 circuit split means that the 2 currently prevails, thus making border searching of electronics illegal unless you’re within the 11th’s jurisdiction (Florida, Georgia, Alabama, while the guy was arrested traveling to a Texas conference), no?
In 2014, the US Supreme Court issued its landmark ruling in Riley v. California, which held that law enforcement officials violated the Fourth Amendment when they searched an arrestee’s cellphone without a warrant. The court explained, “Modern cell phones are not just another technological convenience. With all they contain and all they may reveal, they hold for many Americans ‘the privacies of life.’ The fact that technology now allows an individual to carry such information in his hand does not make the information any less worthy of the protection for which the Founders fought.”[15]
In 2013, before Riley was decided, the Ninth Circuit court of appeals held that reasonable suspicion is required to subject a computer seized at the border to forensic examination. […] In May of 2018, in U.S. v. Kolsuz, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals has held that it is unconstitutional for US border officials to subject visitors’ devices to forensic searches without individualized suspicion of criminal wrongdoing.[22] Just five days later, in U.S. v. Touset, the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals split with the Fourth and Ninth Circuits, ruling that the Fourth Amendment does not require suspicion for forensic searches of electronic devices at the border.[23] The existence of a circuit split is one of the factors that the Supreme Court of the United States considers when deciding whether to grant review of a case.[24]
My understanding is that any protections like that only apply to citizens while at the border and not foreigners looking to travel.
held that it is unconstitutional for US border officials to subject visitors’ devices to forensic searches without individualized suspicion of criminal wrongdoing
It’s not like the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply to people with just visas either.
I’m just gonna go out on a limb here and say they’re ignoring whatever court precedent actually exists at this point anyway.
Also, a phrase I’ve heard a lot “you can beat the charge but you can’t beat the ride.” Meaning, like Luigi Mangione, you can argue in court about illegal seizures after it has already happened. I’m guessing most border patrol agents just plan on losing court cases like this, because they know, in the moment, they can get away with it.
I mean they fucking tortured a white European green card holder recently.
I mean they fucking tortured a white European green card holder recently.
What is this news? I haven’t heard of that yet.
“It was just said that his green card was flagged,” said Astrid Senior, his mother. She said she didn’t hear from her son directly until Tuesday, when she learned he’d been hospitalized.
Senior described Schmidt being “violently interrogated” at Logan Airport for hours, and being stripped naked, put in a cold shower by two officials, and being put back onto a chair.
She said Schmidt told her immigration agents pressured him to give up his green card. She said he was placed on a mat in a bright room with other people at the airport, with little food or water, suffered sleep deprivation, and was denied access to his medication for anxiety and depression.
“He hardly got anything to drink. And then he wasn’t feeling very well and he collapsed,” said Senior.
He was transported by ambulance to Mass General Hospital. He didn’t know it at the time, but he also had influenza.
On Tuesday, Schmidt was transported to the regional headquarters for ICE in Burlington, Massachusetts, and then transferred to the Wyatt facility. The family, including his partner, who is a cardiologist in Nashua, have acquired attorneys and been working with the German consulate in hopes to have him released on bail.
Schmidt and his mother moved to the U.S. in 2007, and received green cards in 2008. He moved from California to New Hampshire in 2022.
Senior described her son as a hardworking electrical engineer with a partner and 8-year-old daughter who are both U.S. citizens.
It’s “voluntary” in the sense that either you allow it or you don’t get into the country.
Was that explicitly said to him? Did they tell him that if he refused the inspection that he would be denied entry?
BTW, what you described is a mandatory inspection.
i just downvoted because everyone else was doing it. I actually like your comment
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that’s just silly. you don’t have to press a button
well its better than the button pressing me
