Ah, yeah DDG uses the google Being browser engines.
I think there’s confusion about what we’re talking about:
DDG the web page search engine uses the bing crawler.
DDG the web browser, which is contemporary to firefox uses webkit and blink
Yeah, but that it’s a rejectable download isn’t really the issue here. That it’s, unprompted, trying to get me to sideload a random .apk at all and hijacking my clipboard is the problem.
I’m curious what western social media apps have attempted to directly download the .apk onto your device - I’ve had plenty that throw up splash pages that redirect me to google play store, but no legitimate site has ever unprompted served me a raw .apk before. That’s behavior you find on the AI slop sites that are just long strings of search terms to try and get you to click on them.
Oh, very different thing. When that happens it’s just asking permission for an applink query - which is just a flag that tells the user’s OS to check and see if any currently installed apps are associated with a given URL and then passes it to that app if there is one.
It’s very different from trying to get the user to sideload an entire app. “Open in app” is not really a threat vector, but installing random unverified .apk is the threat itself.
Google Play very much is a large threat vector. And I see it no differently than the photo you showed. At least on f-droid, the code for apps is examinable, where even if one isn’t a programmer/hobbiest, they have the option of asking someone they trust to audit the code. On Google Play, you get the developer’s “lol trust me, bro!”
As an example, one app consistently has hundreds of tracking attempts by a notorious, very intrusive website, and I’m extremely grateful I can see that and block it; and uninstall the app because NOT Google and NOTthat (sneaky, evil, in disclosing) dev told me. Another dev of a different appdid.
So the difference is, you were pre-asked and had the option to refuse.
No, it’s that nobody was talking about the google play store, and while I’m certain you’re trying to disagree with me you’re making very salient points in my favor about the dangers of unverified closed-source apps.
You seem to understand exactly that what that site is doing is dangerous and broad strokes on why, but you’re using that to… excuse their behavior.
But you… then explicitly go on to explain how it’s different from US websites. Like you understand this, so I’m not sure why we’re disagreeing here. It’s fundamentally different, you even explain how it’s different, we’re not… disagreeing here.
I kind of figured you wouldn’t, based on prior interchanges, but tried anyway. No worries, enjoy your day/night.
It’s disappointing you seem to only remember the time you were abusive and proved wrong in your accusations, but not the multiple extremely civil/pleasant interactions we’ve had since then.
Don’t regress these interactions and start being a dick for no reason. Seriously, this has been plenty civil until you started to get defensive about your unfamiliarity with the topic.
I think there’s confusion about what we’re talking about:
Yeah, but that it’s a rejectable download isn’t really the issue here. That it’s, unprompted, trying to get me to sideload a random .apk at all and hijacking my clipboard is the problem.
I’m curious what western social media apps have attempted to directly download the .apk onto your device - I’ve had plenty that throw up splash pages that redirect me to google play store, but no legitimate site has ever unprompted served me a raw .apk before. That’s behavior you find on the AI slop sites that are just long strings of search terms to try and get you to click on them.
I usually get “open in app” dialogue.
Oh, very different thing. When that happens it’s just asking permission for an applink query - which is just a flag that tells the user’s OS to check and see if any currently installed apps are associated with a given URL and then passes it to that app if there is one.
It’s very different from trying to get the user to sideload an entire app. “Open in app” is not really a threat vector, but installing random unverified .apk is the threat itself.
Google Play very much is a large threat vector. And I see it no differently than the photo you showed. At least on f-droid, the code for apps is examinable, where even if one isn’t a programmer/hobbiest, they have the option of asking someone they trust to audit the code. On Google Play, you get the developer’s “lol trust me, bro!”
As an example, one app consistently has hundreds of tracking attempts by a notorious, very intrusive website, and I’m extremely grateful I can see that and block it; and uninstall the app because NOT Google and NOT that (sneaky, evil, in disclosing) dev told me. Another dev of a different app did.
So the difference is, you were pre-asked and had the option to refuse.
I’m sorry, I don’t think I understand what you mean here.
I kind of figured you wouldn’t, based on prior interchanges, but tried anyway. No worries, enjoy your day/night.
No, it’s that nobody was talking about the google play store, and while I’m certain you’re trying to disagree with me you’re making very salient points in my favor about the dangers of unverified closed-source apps.
You seem to understand exactly that what that site is doing is dangerous and broad strokes on why, but you’re using that to… excuse their behavior.
I already said
And
/Disengage
But you… then explicitly go on to explain how it’s different from US websites. Like you understand this, so I’m not sure why we’re disagreeing here. It’s fundamentally different, you even explain how it’s different, we’re not… disagreeing here.
It’s disappointing you seem to only remember the time you were abusive and proved wrong in your accusations, but not the multiple extremely civil/pleasant interactions we’ve had since then.
This isn’t a DB0 community - and even if it was, this wouldn’t be a valid use of the disengage rule. see: “For a disengage call to be valid, it must not be accompanied by other arguments on the existing topic. A disengage is not meant to be a trump card to have the last word.”
Don’t regress these interactions and start being a dick for no reason. Seriously, this has been plenty civil until you started to get defensive about your unfamiliarity with the topic.