cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/46148690
Over the past few days, @MrKaplan@lemmy.world/@MrKaplan@piefed.world has banned multiple users, blocked entire comms, and now defederated from Anarchist.Nexus over their anti-Zionist stance.
This extreme overreaction and general power trippin’ bastard behavior stems from Lemmy.world’s history of pro-Zionist views. And now MrKaplan is seeking out the flimsiest pretext to to enact his own personal vendetta.
Free Palestine, Death to Israel, Death to Zionism.
Lemmy.world is a ZioNazi instance. Avoid it like the plague.
Thing is, that comment isn’t Zionism. It was pretty mild and was basically just a call out of the hypocrisy of responding to evil by doing the exact same evil. It’s perfectly reasonable moral stance, and you’re free to agree or not - but it’s poor form and will ruin Lemmy to ban discussion which is only pointing out the evil of genocide regardless of who does it. You can and should call out Isreal’s evil. But I don’t think we want to become the evil in the same way that some Jews persecuted by Nazis have now become the same evil. And of course context, and history of comments matter - but your knee jerk reaction was seemingly not about context or history, but simply not liking any discussion that doesn’t fit your perspective 100%. And that’s poor form - the whole point of Lemmy is for discussion, not a bunch of people blindly agreeing with each other. Now I’ll probably get banned for saying all this, sigh.
Yeah, equating calls to end Zionism/Israel with genocide/Antisemitism is absolutely Zionism, and banning isn’t nearly enough, but it’s all you can do to someone online.
Fuck Israel and any genocide enjoyers that defend it.
Calling for genocide, even of those committing genocide, is still calling for genocide. That’s the point being made.
Genocide is bad no matter who does it. No one should be calling for the genocide if any group of people. Pointing this out isn’t “Zionism”.
Calling for the death of genocidal colonists isn’t calling for genocide. It’s supporting the right to self defense by the colonized. You’re still trying to conflate your pet genocidal colonizer apartheid state with “Jews”, and that’s just some bullshit Zionist blood libel.
Calling for genocide, or even mass murder, is always wrong. Always.
Good thing self defense against a genocidal settler colonial state is neither of those things.
But spreading Hasbara bullshit is wrong and contains an implied call for genocide, so why don’t you stop?
I don’t even know what “hasbara” is. I’m the one literally saying don’t call for people to be killed you turnip.
What you’re actually saying is don’t call for the people being killed to defend themselves, which is not the moral high ground you think it is
No, don’t call for genocide or mass killings. How can you not understand this?
Liberals: “Nazi is a protected class”
“The holocaust was bad but saying you want to get rid of the nazis is literally the same thing”
“My brain is made of microwave popcorn”
Calling for genocide, or even mass murder, is always wrong. Always. This isn’t hard to understand.
name: ‘freedom advocate’
location: somewhere in Argentina
occupation: retired summer camp guard
favorite quote: “hunting down nazis is literally the exact same as the holocaust”
If the zionist colonizers don’t want to be justifiably killed by the colonized then they can just fuck off back to brooklyn or wherever
Just don’t call for people to be murdered. It’s not hard. If you do it, you’re in the wrong.
Lol fuck off clown
Removed by mod
@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com I think I speak for all of us when I say this blatant Zionist apologia is getting old, and I think it might be time to enforce golden rule #8 here. I assume reports against comments like these are being dismissed by LW admins.
I reported comments for a person denying the nekba and his comments are still there
How is it possibly Zionist apologia what I posted?
They are blatant Hasbara talking points, which endorse Zionist views.
Land back movements are not, and never have been a call to genocide. This is ancient racist hasbara. Do you think arabs have a “natural disposition” or whatever to kill jews or something?
He is a very well known zionist. Many of his comments war removed for lying about palestinian claiming they do not want peace
What you are doing is openly promoting Zionist apologia with your attempt at defending a Zionist. It’s not surprising Zionists don’t recognize their own Zionism as Zionism when it is being talked about as it actually is, a harmful ideology.
"See the thing is, he didn’t say anything about Zionism, he just advocates it, disagrees with anyone who doesn’t like it, and then says anytime you want freedom for people it automatically means mass murder because Zionist freedom is mass murder.
But he’s not a Zionist, and don’t check his history."
I don’t tend to check histories. I look at a comment based on the comment. If you want to ban someone for a particular comment that warrants it, I guess that’s fine, but it seems wrong to ban someone for a comment that isn’t bad, even if you think they mean in some bad way because of other comments
So you don’t think if someone has a history of being something, when they make comments defending it isn’t suspect?