after the recent disgraceful behavior in YPTB where @deceptichum@quokk.au was banned by @MrKaplan@lemmy.world for being a “troll”, I banned MrKaplan preemptively from !anarchymemes@anarchist.nexus, as I do anyone who displays zionist tendencies. the ban reason was for “zionism, genocide apologia”. calling someone pointing out the FHF’s long history of zionism and protecting zionist users a “troll” and saying they are acting in “bad faith” is absolutely zionism, and zionism is genocide apologia. at the same time, I also banned @recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca for also banning @deceptichum@quokk.au, with a suspiciously similar ban message.
this aggravated @MrKaplan@lemmy.world, who then started asking around about me to find out more information. they quickly found my profile, which as anyone who has been around AN or dbzer0 might know, has always been rather spicy when it comes to the US and Israel.
“scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”
queer armed militant anarchist. death to the United States, and death to Israel! the only good zionist is a dead zionist.
my display name at the time was also Luminous5481 “Murder all zionists” [they/them]. this wasn’t aimed at MrKaplan, but rather zionism as an ideology in general. it has long been my very vocal opinion that there is no appreciable difference between the state of Israel and Nazi Germany, nor between zionism and nazism. both nations are guilty of having engaged in genocide over the span of years, something determined by the ICC, if not the eyes and ears of anyone who has seen the shocking scenes of Israeli terrorism coming from Gaza these past years.
however, this rightfully calling for the death of a ideology that is incompatible with anarchism, and the rest of humanity in general, was enough for MrKaplan to not only instance ban me, but entirely defederate the instances under the control of the FHF cabal from Anarchist Nexus.
but that wasn’t enough. they also contacted other admins of popular instances, and encouraged them to defederate from AN and dbzer0, claiming that the other admins of the flotilla had refused to do anything about it, despite MrKaplan immediately defederating as soon as he raised his concerns with our team. this obviously is a blatant lie, likely to cover for the fact that he most likely did not bother reaching a consensus with the other LW admins over his actions before he took them. but idk about that, it’s only my speculation. I only know what he and other admins have said behind closed doors to our team.
the fact of the matter is that wishing death to zionists is a popular opinion among leftists. it’s one that I’ve held for years, and it didn’t suddenly go away when Israel accelerated their genocide in 2023. nor did it go away when the German government, and certain German instances and users threw their support behind a genocidal regime intent on wiping out a race and religion they see as subhuman. did I say it more often or more plainly than plenty of other leftists? sure! but do not assume that the opinion is not shared by many who oppose an ideology that, like the nazis, is the enemy of all mankind.
for now, I have graciously offered to step down as admin, in the hopes that the FHF will stop throwing their weight around to bully smaller instances and suppress the free speech of the people. it’s one thing to ban a user for a viewpoint you don’t like. it’s another thing to defederate from an instance, and then threaten other instances to get them to defederate as well. it’s another thing to go around telling everyone they should defederate simply because you are offended at an opinion that should be shared by all who love humanity. of course, some might say that this is entirely because I accused the “FHF team members of being zionists while simultaneously calling for zionists to be murdered”. but if that were true, then why has MrKaplan not also defederated from lemmy.ml, despite many of their users being just as vocal as I am ? there’s a big difference between AN and ML, and that difference is user count. MrKaplan feels he can get away with throwing his weight around and demanding other instances censor themselves according to his views when it’s an instance that’s smaller than LW. and I’m not asking to be unbanned. I really do not care about “missing out” on LW. but at the very least? MrKaplan should not be censoring other instances and maliciously attacking them behind their back by seeking defederation from other admins. and he certainly should not be doing it in the dark, where nobody can see or comment.
UPDATE: @rimu@piefed.social also banned me for “death threats”, something which doesn’t show up in the modlog because I’ve never used that instance for anything.
It’s been a tough week for them. First an Italian magazine publishes a photo, and now they’re scrambling to respond to IOF Cleetus memes.
I expect at least a few random bannings and a weeks worth of Kamala 2024 rehash memes to balance things out.
4·23 hours agowait what? I missed this Italian photo drama. do tell, please. 😄
L’Espresso is the magazine name. Their cover depicts an Israeli settler as he abuses a Palestinian woman.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/israeli-palestinian-italian-magazine/
And well, Cleetus from the Simpsons just fit the comparison. Saw a few threads of people running hard hasbara about it being antisemitic.
Ban me like one of your Zion girls
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why would I do that? I don’t give a shit that LW banned me. I just think MrKaplan is a piece of shit for bullying other instances. I would much rather the turbolibs stay on LW.
We don’t promote brigading or ban evasion. That’s not what YPTB is for.
If bans are unjust they should be disregarded. The bite they have is the fact idiots comply and show respect to those handing them out.
I’m not “complying”, I don’t want to associate with them. the only reason I hadn’t blocked the instance was I was officially an admin and needed to be able to see everyone.
the fediverse is based on freedom of association. if someone says they don’t want to associate with you via ban, block, or defederation, and you undermine that you undermine the underlying social fabric of the fediverse. i think your motivation is just but that your approach won’t win many over to your point of view
MrKaplan does not give a good reason nor is he expressing a desire to not associate. He is expressing a desire to silence others and control the narrative in favor of his Zionist agenda. To frame that as freedom of association is just as shameful as his actions and the actions of his Zionazi followers.
You’re advocating we treat fascists with the same mutual respect we treat others because they are admins or pay money for a server. We should not afford these people such social comforts. Respect needs to be earned, and promoting fascism and trying to silence its opposition is the fastest way to lose it!
If the social fabric of the fediverse aims to protect fascists we can and should challenge that!
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PTB, even if they felt they had a point here by stretching belief to claim that someone’s edgy label was a dliberate threat to themselves (I mean, seriously…), defederating a whole-ass instance because of one admins, with zero-warning and zero attempts at discussion, not even with their own community is just the top of power-trippin’. For me it shows that LW admins feel they can throw their weight around because of the amount of users they have, which is precicely what many people have been warning about the de-facto centralization happening when L.W. is suggested as the “default” instance. Now the sensitivities of a single, unelected and uncontrollable admin, affect the social connections of most of the threadiverse.
Could Luminous be more “professional” as an admin? Sure (I keep telling people “murder” is the wrong word to use). Their unfiltered takes have routinely been annoying both tankies and libs which is probably not the behaviour that you want to have from an admin. But is that a defederation-worthy reason? Kaplan surely thinks so, but I’m curious to see if their 10K MAU agree that they can’t see anyone in the same place as one problematic person.
But at the end of the day, claiming that this is a credible “death threat” is patently absurd behavior and I urge people to think if they really want instant defederations without deliberation at the whims of a few power-users is the threadiverse they want to have.
For me it shows that LW admins feel they can throw their weight around because of the amount of users they have, which is precicely what many people have been warning about the de-facto centralization happening when L.W. is suggested as the “default” instance. Now the sensitivities of a single, unelected and uncontrollable admin, affect the social connections of most of the threadiverse.
Meanwhile we had a community vote what to do with Feddit.org where people got to decide on the outcome, and people said that was power abuse.
Projection from zionazis, what a shocker.
Their unfiltered takes have routinely been annoying both tankies and libs which is probably not the behaviour that you want to have from an admin.
No that’s literally exactly what I want from an admin lol 😆
well good news. I may have stepped down as an admin, but I’m still very much an active part of the community, and shall remain such! I’m still developing tools and working on creative projects with the admin team.
The transparency with which you and the flotilla engage with instance government is admirable.
I won’t hold my breath but if lemmy.world, lemmy.ca, and piefed.social could learn from you everyone would benefit.
The fact that Luminous chose to step down for their correct stance and statements because it was controversial but Mr Kaplan faces no consequences for this behaviour really says a lot.
I’ve always wanted to attempt a radically democratically-run social media and with me being an admin I could finally push it to the limits :D
I’m sorry this happened to you, the .world admins began poisoning the well about hexbear when they preemptively defederated the instance.
Spreading lies to the other admins and throwing their user count around to bully. I warned the other leftist instance admins in those group channels and in response another .world admin used the lemmy.world database to doxx an alt of mine.
Rudd has met with Meta when they were rolling out threads, combined with their track record of actions I can say that .world is detrimental to the fediverse.
PTB. Turbo based
Zionism isn’t something you’re born with lmao, it’s an ideology you choose. MurderAllZionists is about as offensive as HangAllNazis.
Like mate, there are people on the land. Zionism is an ideology of ethnic cleansing based on intrinsic mythological superior claim (rhymes somewhat with some other ideology methinks).
What a kook.
MrKraplan is a “German” and apparently would be offended by HangAllNazis, calling for the death of people? Have you no sensibilities.
German churches are a bastion of reaction and zionism. It’s no wonder a german kaplan would go pretty heavy handed on the moderation of antizionism
Germans are committed to their long history of being pro-genocide. They’re just “protecting their heritage”, as they have always done.
scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds moment
PTB for sure
sigh.
I dealt with MrKaplan a lot when the Jordan stuff was going on. At first, things were kinda chill and seemed polite but what Kaplan was telling me was not matching the things other people were showing me. That was one of the big reasons why I outright left Lemmy.world. The inconsistency from the administration team of lemmy.world is off the wall. They’re not on the same page internally yet they keep gaining more centralized control on lemmy. They’re, in effect, reddit and Kaplan might as well be Spez.
Kaplan had zero problem dragging their feet on Jordan for weeks. Yet this appears to have been instant for you. The defederation of an entire instance, and all users on it, was done due to the display name of a single admin. Other admins exist. Those admins were not, as I’ve been reliably informed, talked to on the matter before it happened.
So, Kaplan just used a wildly unproportional response to this. Instead of banning you (not saying you should have been) and then contacting other admins to find out what was going on, Kaplan instead instantly took the nuclear option that hasn’t even been reserved from some other admins/instances that were causing far more trouble in the past.
Were you inflammatory? Yeah. But inflammatory doesn’t translate to the defederation of an entire instance without speaking with the admins of that instance first. Then again, is anyone even remotely surprised when Kaplan repeatedly defended JordanLund on numerous occasions?
Remarkable how much bending over backwards is required to get rid of an abusive moderator on their own instance yet defederation of an entire other one due to a single user is no problem.
Kaplan is, unquestionably, the ptb here. Fuck you Kaplan. I am so sick of your shit, your lies, and your inconsistencies.
It really puts in perspective how little they care about it unless it effects them. Now I really wonder if Kaplan was actually the one who kept Jordan around as the others seemed fine removing him.
And really explains their silence when pointing out the many rule breaking Jordan did when it was to help silence bad news about Israel or Biden helping the genocide
They were pretty clearly juuust fine with JordanLund’s moderation over on .world, that whole place stinks (and did long before he went off the deep end that one time).
Same exact flavor of deceit you see all over the place, hiding behind pretend ideals of keeping discussion “civil”, but really just going well out of their way to control discussion around Zionism.
PTB so very much - if they have grievances with an single person, the consequences should also be limited to that user except for the most extreme of cases, and even then they should at least consult their own and the other sides admin team before going for the nuclear option. That they don’t defed from lemmy.ml at the same time only shows their bigotry.
Sounds like MrKaplan did y’all a favor by removing world from your feeds. Preemptive defederation as a last resort is kinda their specialty, though, so I’m honestly surprised it took the disgrace of being rightfully called a Zionist for it to happen.
I literally said in one of the YPTB threads last week that I wished I wasn’t an admin so I could block all of LW and never deal with the shitlibs again.
guess I got my wish, now I can focus on pissing off liberals without having to worry about how professional I look.
I do enjoy the fact that in his entreaties to the other instances to defed you, he doesn’t mention what the $group it is that you (and I) want murdered.
well saying “they want to kill zionists and nazis” just doesn’t roll off the tongue when you’re crying that you’re a victim of death threats, I suppose.
Indeed
Luminous5481: “Murder all Zionists”
MrKaplan: “Calling for me and others to be murdered”
So MrKaplan is admitting to being a zionist?
Yes.
Sure seems that way!
I thought discuss.online was independent from world.
the whole fediverse is ran by just the worst neolibs you can imagine 😭
Holy shit! I didn’t even know they were ran by the same team until this thread! lol
BTW, while I see your lovely display name when viewed from dbzero, it seems it didn’t federate to Hexbear properly?
Though I can’t really tell which is out of date since I don’t think I’m about to create any piefed accounts any time soon.
I changed it back to that when I stepped down from admin a few hours ago. it’ll sync to hexbear sometime in the next day or so probably.
Huh. Every time I think I’ve started to understand how (quickly, or not) federation works (or not) it turns out I need to start over. Cool.
Looking forward to the update.
I found out back around April fools just how slowly user info changes can federate, for some reason hexbear always took the longest of those I checked. Its probably gonna take over a day
Hexbear is sometimes weird with federation. There’s several deleted users who are still up fully on hexbear.
Interesting, I get why there are delays and that they can vary, but I don’t get why one type of activity would be so much slower than another.
well the profiles are pretty low priority most of the time. maybe not right now, when MrKaplan is reading this thread and malding while he refreshes my profile, but the rest of the time for sure.
yeah that’s right, MrKaplan. I know you’re reading this, being angry and self-righteous. 🤣
