Some comrades over at Hexbear have organized a donation drive for Palestine and, over the past few weeks, have managed to raise over $1500 for verified Palestinian fundraisers. The fediverse is a good place full of good people.
goddamn this entire thread is annoying:
- yes the hexbears are annoying and create problems
- no they’re not just as bad as overt fascists. their hearts are in the right place, as demonstrated by this post
- being a scold when they do something good won’t get them to do more good, it will entrench them further into the things they do that are problematic
so good job hexbears. you did something good this week. keep stuff like this going
They are no comrades of mine
Hard to have comrades when you’re an anticommunist!
That’s exactly why hexbears don’t have comrades. Simping for dictators is about the most anticommunist thing you can do.
Tell me you know nothing about Democratic Centralism without telling me you know nothing about Democratic Centralism.
Broken clock effect.
At the end of the day, they’re still authoritarian bootlickers, and they should not be given any slack because they did one good deed. Fuck Hexbear. They’re as evil as MAGA as far as I’m concerned.
havent come across hexbear much so im not really aware of their stances but i think calling a lemmy instance “as evil as MAGA” is kind of a stretch
Sorry that we want free healthcare, education, and we opose imperialism.
Thanks for your engagement on the post! It really helps with visibility
Most countries can have all that without being authoritarian bootlickers.
Define ‘authoritarian’
you are on a .ml instance you fucking know what authoritarian is. Its all your instances favorite leaders
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Hexbear has always been really good at supporting fedizens.
And driving away 95% of their traffic.
Hexbear: organizes its third fundraiser for Palestine, raising above $1500 in just a few weeks
Lemmitors: I FUCKING HATE YOU
They can send it with a note that says “Were not sorry we explicitly fought against the person who was running against the current bastard that’s helping Israel kill you, but we read a lot of theory and we know we’re right. Here’s $1500 bucks, maybe you can use it to read more theory”
Great job blaming the left for the faults of the US government and assuming that most hexbears are even from the US (the one organizing the fundraiser is a Spaniard, as I am, check their post history and username).
Also, both bastards want to kill them, though, your logic doesn’t apply once you remember the current phase of the genocide was initiated during Dem rule.
Read that again, I didn’t make any assumptions about where they are, but I’m not wrong. They fought Kamala like they were getting paid. There’s no way Kamala would have been worse, you’ll have to invent new lies to make that one stick.
Kamala fought ‘herself’.
In USA you need independents to win elections. This has been established fact for many years. Independents outnumber Ds and Rs, at 40% registered (with R30/D30%).
Harris ran an odd campaign, you can see many articles about it… she did a huge amount of Republican outreach, more than I’ve ever seen or heard of… and even ads, like “He doesn’t have to know how you voted” and so on, for months when she was already short on time.
They don’t do that in my experience, it’s unusual to say the least. Independent votes are their target, much more susceptible for voting D than any R.
Why did they waste all of this time and money on REPUBLICANS?
I know why, and so does Kamala and the DNC. They aren’t stupid.
She went against the math and went for her opposition’s votes… she took a knee.
If you disagree, if you’re familiar with US politics and know of a different reason, please share. I want to be wrong.
She stuck to all her leftwing policy position and only compromised on 80/20 issues like border security.
Third such fundraiser in hexbear, maybe it’s time to reconsider who’s the worst person :P
Hexbear banned me just for posting a meme of Bernie Sanders kissing Vladimir Putin with the caption “Tankies ❤️ Dead Palestinians”.
I don’t care how much money they raise. They are monsters. Inhuman, vile, irredeemable filth. Anyone who doesn’t let me post in their community is the worst kind of pond scum.
Damn, almost had me in the first half, commendable sarcasm comrade, made me chuckle
Let me know when they’ll do a fundraiser for Ukraine…
Edit: the tankies are here to brigade this thread… someone lit the fires of hexbear lol
Ukraine is still beating Russia back even after Trump cut their funding. Palestinians are the most defenseless people on Earth.
What the hell kind of point are you even trying to make here?
Let me know when .world does anything to help anyone ever.
Also: WhAtAbOuTiSm?!
Are three fundraisers for Palestine not good enough for you? I don’t think this is the correct community or post to expose such animosity, this fundraiser is a good thing for people who are suffering under Isntreals thumb and I believe that should be the focus: if you want to own hexbears epic style, the best way to do so would be to organize your own fundraiser outside hexbear for Palestinians.
In my experience, hexbears have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I don’t want to get political because this is not the appropriate comm for this, you can disagree with the geopolitical analysis of the situation with hexbears but they surely don’t want Ukrainians thrown into a meat grinder (nor Russians for that matter) and have no animosity for Ukrainians as a people, in a similar way to how many people criticise the Iranian government’s policy without hating on Iranian people.
Are three fundraisers for Palestine not good enough for you? I don’t think this is the correct community or post to expose such animosity, this fundraiser is a good thing for people who are suffering under Isntreals thumb and I believe that should be the focus: if you want to own hexbears epic style, the best way to do so would be to organize your own fundraiser outside hexbear for Palestinians.
That’s not the point, it’s great they’re doing something good but they spread intolerance via propaganda from authoritarian countries.
In my experience, hexbears have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I don’t want to get political because this is not the appropriate comm for this, you can disagree with the geopolitical analysis of the situation with hexbears but they surely don’t want Ukrainians thrown into a meat grinder (nor Russians for that matter) and have no animosity for Ukrainians as a people, in a similar way to how many people criticise the Iranian government’s policy without hating on Iranian people.
You must be blind then, because.ml and hexbear are both massive voices on Ukraine being filled with Nazis and it should be wiped out and returned to russia. The only reason they hate what Israel is doing is because Israel is backed by the west, which they hate.
Would you be here saying how great it is for a white supremacists group raising funds for something? Probably not.
Tolerance of the intolerant must not be allowed.
They’re horrible because they disagree with the amount of Nazis in Ukraine?
What percentage of Nazis in Ukraine would you consider “tolerant”, when does the switch flip from “tolerant” to “intolerant”?
Everyone gets called Nazis, sitting at a table with Nazis makes you a Nazi, and so on.
but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really
propaganda doesn’t make it wrong. They DO genuinely have a Nazi problem, see far-right Azov movement. Would you agree that is a problem? Or do you assert that is fake, and the movement never happened or something?
Is “the left chapter” and hundreds of other sources all Russian propaganda? there is a ton of information online, all fake?
So then everyone has a nazi problem and russia should just be invading everyone…if you haven’t picked up yet…there are a lot of right wing movements out there. Guess Russia should start bombing civilians in other countries then.
Guess they should start in their own backyard though.
https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis
Why everyone?
Wouldn’t it be reasonable for Ukraine not to have Nazi military brigades? Is that a bridge too far for you, a Ukrainian?
Isn’t that an official arm of your government? Are they right wing nationalists or not? I’ve seen them wear SS badges on many occasions, is that AI or fake? You would know better than I.
I agree, Russia should start in their own backyard, as should all nations. I am against all Nazis and far-right nationalists, in every country, and against armed invasion (like USA’s Iran war and Russia’s invasion).
So… you still have a Nazi problem, and in your armed forces no less… do you agree? Or are they not a problem for you? Or are they fake news?
and it should be wiped out and returned to russia
You are definitely making this up, saying something like this would first get you dunked and then banned, feel free to do the experiment. I’m saying this as both a frequent hexbear user and someone who hosted a Ukrainian refugee in my own home at the beginning of the war. Again, not the correct post or community to be arguing about this shit.
https://hexbear.net/post/253926
I dunno what instance you think I’m talking about but literally hexbear users saying shit like:
“(but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really).”
Is not pro Ukrainian, it’s russian propaganda.
You might need to check and see if the hexbear I’m talking about is the same one you are thinking of.
I’m not here discussing your support for Ukrainians, I have family in Ukraine, so thank you for taking refugees in.
Great, so now you’re moving the goalposts from hexbear users saying “Ukrainians should be wiped out” to “the Ukrainian government has a Nazi problem”, at least you realized how utterly ridiculous your first claim was.
Also, “not that Russia’s invasion had anything to do with that” is literally the opposite of Russian propaganda, Russian propaganda explicitly claims that the purpose of the invasion was to denazify Ukraine’s government, so claiming that the invasion had nothing to do with that is explicitly saying that the propaganda is false.
It’s a much more sensible and reasonable claim about politics and geopolitics that doesn’t wish any evil on Ukrainians, as I originally argued. You may disagree with it as I said, but again, idk why you feel so compelled to bring this whataboutism in a post about fundraising for Palestine. It seems to me that you couldn’t easily find anything contradicting what I said, so you moved the goalposts and tried to make it sound different?
Edit: holy shit you’re being disingenuous, the post you’re quoting literally says the following: “the working people of ukraine are suffering due to the profitable war mongering of capitalist powers” right before what you pasted here. I will now proceed to disengage with you because you just proved to me that you’re not arguing in good faith, you’re making shit up, moving the goalposts and cherrypicking quotes then misinterpreting them willingly.
No its not good enough. They’ve done far more damage to Palestine by advocating against Harris in 2024.
Sure, advocating for “most-lethal-armed-forces-in-the-world Harris” would have totally saved Gaza, it’s not like the ramping up of the genocide started during Democrat rule, and not like Democrats were sending the cops to beat up anti-genocide protestors at universities!
you’re right its not like that at all.
Nah but the zionazis are.
Let’s not kid ourselves $1500 is a joke and accomplishes nothing.
Then organize your own fundraiser and triple the amount, the more the merrier!
No thanks. Everyone involved here sucks.
well, at least there will be a positive effect from them for once
I’ve never heard of Hexbear. Care to explain?
hexbear.net is an explicitly and unapologetically instance of Lemmy. They’re known for their active userbase, light trigger on banning Zionist, transphobic or even pro-western content (which angers many people who live in the west), and their love for beanis
You guys are so weird. Russia is awful for non-cis people and you’re all falling over yourselves simping for them.
Nobody simps for Russia over in Hexbear, internal policy is terrible, but the fact is that it’s been forced by the west to adopt many anti-imperialist policies, which communists are right to offer CRITICAL support
Got it. Everything is the west’s fault. Very nuanced.
Not everything, but as things stand, most things yeah. It’s what happens when you concentrate power for 100 years in one or two capitalist nations.
To you, “nuance” simply means “other nations must be even worse, look, I saw it on my western disinformation”
You’re the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them.
It’s okay though, the west made you post that message.
Many instances defederated from them because a large chunk of the user base was abusive and brigading. To an extent even the worst right wing instances federated couldn’t match.
Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear “pre-emptively” before they even had federation active. To this day, I have never seen this mythical hexbear brigading.
It’s more often the reverse. You’ll see accounts in hexbear-adjacent servers posting “Why Stalin Was Worse Than Hitler” tier content, getting banned, and then coming over to .world to scream and cry about how they’ve been censored by the mean Tankies.
Yes. And people including myself have accounts on other servers. And experienced it personally 3-4 years ago. That you didn’t experience it doesn’t disprove it. There’s a reason many of us chose servers like world as primary, that didn’t federate.
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I don’t like tankies much either but I’ve seen way worse from the fascists.
Not really sure if it’s useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse.
I don’t want to step in either
Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West.
In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp.
