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Yeah, see this is why I went with Linux Mint Debian Edition instead of Ubuntu-flavored Linux Mint. I know the Mint guys strip out most of the less-desirable stuff that ships with Ubuntu, but at that point you may as well have just started with Debian. Seems easier to go forward from straight Debian instead of working backwards from a slopified Debian-based distro.
Canonical is just another shitty corpo using FOSS to masquerade as a “good guy”.
Eww, like no thank you Canonical. I think Garuda Linux is going to be my new default distro! Ubuntu is not it for me anymore, their direction towards becoming Microslop-lite is simply bothersome.
Just as long as it is local AI and optional. If I’m gonna have to connect my Ubuntu devices to some datacenter just for slop I didn’t ask for, I’m switching again
Just jump ship already before it fully sinks.
Linux Mint may be for you. It’s literally Ubuntu stripped of Canonical’s crap, and I expect they’ll make the AI stuff something you have to explicitly install if you want it. They already did that with Snaps, for example.
You should switch anyways. Ubuntu is corpo slop pushing their own close source software. Use debian if you want something just as boring and stable that just works.
I’ll second what /u/unexposedhazard said. Switch anyway. I kept Ubuntu for a long time because I thought it was the easy option… Changed to Debian at the beginning of the year and my god its so much better and not at all more difficult than Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is the Windows of Linux.
Seems like it could go there, but for now i believe this is primarily for the corporate and commercial customers. They rightfully need to keep up with or exceed their competitors. The aspect that decides if they are turning into Windows is how they implement, not what they implement.
Nobody using computer systems in corporate environments wants AI in the first place.
As if Snap wasn’t enough crap now we are on the AI scam. Just get a job at Micro$lop already you idiots.
Various AI features for Ubuntu Linux are expected to land over the next year with a bias on local inferencing by default. Canonical engineers will be working on integrating agentic workflows into Ubuntu for those that want it. There are areas being explored for AI use on Ubuntu both for the desktop as well as for Ubuntu servers such as for assisting in interpreting system logs
Sounds actually reasonable. As long as it doesn’t get shoved down the users throat it could turn out fine. And sifting through logs is in fact a good task for LLMs in my opinion.
As long as it doesn’t get shoved down the users throat
Ubuntu doesn’t have a great track record in that regard.
This is a carefully crafted press release. But canonical has been looking for a business model for a long time. I wonder if this won’t turn out like windows 11 (buy copilot buy copilot buy copilot everywhere)
But yea if they do what they say here it’s not bad.
The key is how they introduce it. How many Ubuntu users (who are usually novice in Linux) read through an update notice? I’m guilty of just scanning through it. A vaguely named new thing isn’t going to be unchecked.
I like Ubuntu’s “feel” vs. others. I can’t explain what that is, just know I test ran a few before I settled on it. I’m slowly weaning off Snap though, mainly because I’ve had many things be so out of date it made sense to go Flakpak or just find a .deb file. And Snap is obviously bloat if you watch what’s using CPU and mem regularly.
I’ve also used some LLMs to diagnose computer issues, so I can see how a local version that walks through such thing would be helpful.
I’ll give them rope, and I can always bounce to Mint if it gets too in my face.
How many Ubuntu users (who are usually novice in Linux)
Don’t be so sure of that. I used to use Gentoo 20 years ago. I use Kubuntu today. Why? Because I don’t care anymore and just want something that works with minimal effort.
The last time I reinstalled my OS, about a year ago, it was because I replaced the SSD. The time before that was seven(?) years earlier, when I built the system in the first place.
Snaps mildly annoy me though, so I might change. Eventually, after probably several more years.
I bet there are more people like me (long-time users picking boring, “basic” distros) than you think. We just aren’t usually very conspicuous compared to the “I use Arch BTW” crowd who are new enough that they still feel the need to make distro choice part of their identity.
The one thing I don’t mind an LLM doing is sifting through logs and metrics to find patterns and flag anomalies.
Yes. Like most things, genAI is not evil. It is now it is used (or made available) that makes it evil.
I’m on board with making it easy to use and integrate GenAI as long as I have full control of which model I use and how it is used and there are no behind the curtain shenanigans.
All of these things should be optional, not installed by default.
Holy fuck
Don’t panic, we have options if it’s bad.
