Vyvanse makes my heart super poundy and made me feel super duper uncomfortable.
I ended up on Paroxetine. Now my husband is finding Vuvande is causing him to have 24/7 headaches.
I keep it simple. Methylphenidate 25mg taken as needed for when I need my brian to do things. Sure it’s straight meth, sure it makes me a little jittery and my palms a little sweaty, but that’s how I know it’s working
Methylphenidate isn’t meth at all - it’s ritalin/concerta. “Meth” is amphetamine (Adderall) with a substituted methyl group (methamphetamine). This increases its ability to dissolve in lipids, so more enters the brain and at a greater rate.
By mass, methylphenidate is about half the strength of amphetamine. Amphetamine is about 1/5 the strength of methamphetamine, so methylphenidate is about 1/10 the strength of methamphetamine. Amphetamines and methylphenidate also work by different mechanisms, so they have different effects, making the relative strength an imperfect comparison.
Methamphetamine actually is prescribed on rare occasion under the brand name Desoxyn, usually as a last ditch effort for extreme, treatment-resistant ADHD.
oh huh ive never heard of Desoxyn being prescribed for ADHD, I was under the impression it was only prescribed for extreme cases of narcolepsy
Didnt ask but now i know more! Thank you kind stranger! I can finally explain the difference! I used to always say “well yes but actually no” to question “isnt it just meth?”
meth-like
Didn’t ask
Funny thing: I didn’t ask if you cared and I don’t care if you do. I wanted to put the correct information for those who actually care about if things are true or not.
We’re not on Facebook, some of us have standards.
Well see, I was doing this thing called a joke that humans do. Sometimes other people laugh, but everyone generally understands that the person making the joke isn’t trying to share specific accurate medical information. You felt the need to correct a joke, which makes you the absolute worst kind of loser.
Maybe you should go to Facebook, that’s the place for people who think other people need to hear what they have to say.
The ego and your lack of awareness of it is sad bud.
People can both understand (maybe even enjoy) a joke, and follow it with a relevant info-dump.
We don’t shit on info-dumps here. We appreciate them.
Maybe you should relax a bit. The information provided by SoleInvictus was interesting and set things straight. If you post something on social media, be prepared for getting responses. That’s how this platform works.
The only thing I’ve actually found offensive here is that you think anyone would be so stupid as to find that believable.
Sure it’s straight meth, sure it makes me a little jittery and my palms a little sweaty, but that’s how I know it’s working
If you can’t see that’s a joke you’re a lost fucking cause bud, like autistic levels of unable to catch a joke. You’ve got the sense of humor the pharmaceutical knowledge you dropped earlier suggests.
Didn’t ask
Such a wild response lol
You commented on a forum. People reply. That’s… what happens here. The replies are for everyone on the thread, not just you. That’s why it was a comment reply and not a DM.
And like, look at where you are, this is an ADHD community. And someone provided relevant information in response to your comment. Of course someone is going to latch on to some small piece and infodump in response, it’s the ADHD community
Didn’t ask lol
Lol someone got upset they were corrected.
I wasn’t corrected because I made no assertion. I made a joke, but the terminally online are incapable of thought beyond “INACCURATE INFORMATION MUST CORRECT” and it’s fucking sad. It wasn’t a funny joke, I’ll concede that, but I’m not the one worse for wear of this interaction.
From over here, it looks like you had a wee little tantrum and are scrambling to explain with an absolute shite story. Your ‘joke’ may not have been funny, but your response after certainly is.
Sure it’s straight meth, sure it makes me a little jittery and my palms a little sweaty, but that’s how I know it’s working
If you can’t figure out that’s a joke you’re genuinely a lost cause my guy.
I feel like you’re way too invested in whatever hill you’re trying to die on here, and nobody else understands what you’re doing either.
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Elvanse gang rise up!
I tried it. All it did was up my heart rate. Doc prescribed it as an appetite suppressant. It did fuck all for me in that regard.
Does anyone else get a kind of euphoria with Vyvanse? Not true euphoria, just elevated mood I guess?
it’s recognized as a side effect of most stimulants
it is also easier to be in a good mood when you’re not thinking “WHY CAN’T I JUST DO THE THINGS I WANT TO!?” every waking moment
damn, did it worked for you? onwas at 40mg and didn’t notice any difference, how much y’all take?
I’m on 70mg of Elvanse (same stuff) and I’ve finally started to feel it but its subtle. The appetite suppression kicked in down at 30mg but the focus and mental shift (feeling good and not resentful at completing tasks and things which seemed impossible to tackle don’t look as daunting which helps with procrastination) really didnt happen until I hit 70mg.
I take 30mg in the mornings, it works pretty well for me. I took 70mg once and had an absolutely miserable time, it was way too much
Yall taking the og right? The generic is absolutely fucking garbage and doesn’t work for shit.
I don’t think it’s quite like that, I think it’s more that an important part of these drugs is the release mechanism - and any two given brands will work differently for a given person.
I take long release methylphenidate (Ritalin/Concerta being the most known brands). I started with Medikinet because that’s the main recommendation from my healthcare provider. It turned out it releases most of the dosage in the short term and at 40mg doses I constantly felt like I was at an airport with my boarding gate closing in seconds.
Moved to Meflynate, which is also methylphenidate hydrochloride, and now I’m a happy bunny.
My point being - it’s not that generics are bad necessarily, it’s more like, only a certain brand(s) will work for you. Whether for you that’s the more expensive or cheaper one, it’s a bit of a lottery really.
Lisdexafetamine is somewhat unique because the slow release mechanism is more or less inherent to the actual drug itself. That is, the fact that lisdexamfetamine is a prodrug that needs to be processed into dextroamphetamine (the actual stimulant) is the slow release mechanism itself.
Methylphenidate is different because the chemical itself is the stimulant, so pharmaceutical companies need to come up with ways to physically release it slowly, e.g. via mini capsules that dissolve slowly.
Unfortunately every brand and formulation kind of does their own thing in order to differentiate themselves from generics.
IIRC Concerta was the most “advanced” in the sense that they formulated a special double release system where each dose also dissolved slowly. Ritalin LA is much jankier because it basically just released a second or third dose all once later on.
You can search “name of drug” + pharmacokinetics to get more graphs, which in combination with keeping a mood diary can help in nailing down hat works for you.
