• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    1 day ago

    So you think narcissistic personality disorder doesn’t belong in the DSM and psychologists shouldn’t treat it?

    • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      It’s not a psychological disorder, no. A psychologist can’t fix it. It is a choice. The only person that can doing anything about your narcissism is you, don’t put it off on someone else. It’s not depression, it’s not autism, there is no chemical imbalances, you just choose to be shitty and you have to choose to stop.

      You expecting someone else to be responsible for making you a tolerable person is, yet again, the most narcissistic card you could play.

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        1 day ago

        Well, it’s neat to see that Lemmy has an anti-science community who disagree with psychologists.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

        Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a complex and heterogeneous personality disorder

        NPD often involves impaired emotional empathy, superficial relationships, and difficulty tolerating disagreement. It is often co-morbid with other mental disorders and associated with significant functional impairment and psychosocial disability.[1]

        Criteria for diagnosing narcissistic personality disorder are listed in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)

        NPD’s etiology is thought to be largely genetic and neurobiological, with structural and functional brain differences in areas related to self-processing and empathy

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            24 hours ago

            Okay, do you mind if I post more sources and quotes from actual health professionals who disagree with you?

            https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

            A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial matters. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they’re not given the special favors or admiration that they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships troubled and unfulfilling, and other people may not enjoy being around them.

            Treatment for narcissistic personality disorder centers around talk therapy, also called psychotherapy.

            https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/what-is-narcissistic-personality-disorder

            Many people may be familiar with the casual use of the term narcissist, referring to a person who is very self-centered, boastful and hungry for attention and admiration. However, narcissistic personality disorder, a condition described in the DSM-5-TR*, is more severe, persistent and problematic.

            While many people may have traits that might be considered narcissistic, that is not the same as narcissistic personality disorder. “Only when these traits are inflexible, maladaptive, and persisting and cause significant functional impairment or subjective distress do they constitute narcissistic personality disorder” (APA 2022)

            While research is limited, studies show that people with narcissistic personality disorder can improve, but the improvement is gradual and slow. Several treatments have been developed for the condition and they share common aspects, such as setting clear, realistic goals; attention to relationships and self-esteem; and building- the clinician-patient alliance (Weinberg& Ronningstam, 2022).

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              23 hours ago

              All these studies are saying the exact same things I am. There’s nothing wrong with you other than who you choose to be, you have to choose to not be a narcissist. Stop acting like it’s an affliction that was outside of your own motive, take responsibility for your shitty behavior, you’re not deserving of sympathy for being a narcissist. You’re not sick and you’re not broken, do the work.

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                23 hours ago

                https://www.alignmentpsychology.ca/post/narcissism-is-not-a-choice-a-deeper-look-through-the-lens-of-attachment

                Narcissism Is Not a Choice

                Narcissism is not a character flaw—it’s a protective response.And diagnosing Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is not something we can or should do casually.

                When we call someone a narcissist without proper context or diagnosis, we flatten their humanity into a label.
                We reduce complex trauma and attachment ruptures into a fixed identity.

                And perhaps even more importantly, we cut off the possibility for growth—in ourselves and in the other person.

                Healing begins when we are willing to see—not just the behavior, but the wounded humanity beneath it.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Yeah, their position is unlikely to change. I may not like people with this condition, but you’re right that it is not a choice