I find that’s very unhelpful to potential Linux converts. They will quickly find out that there are infinite flavors of Linux, become overwhelmed, and give up.
When you are introducing newcomers to Linux, it’s best to make specific suggestions.
Try just telling someone that they need to switch to Linux with no other details. They’ll either get confused/overwhelmed by choice, or possibly choose one that isn’t user friendly and hate it.
People have to start somewhere, and I see no issue with recommending user friendly distros to get them going.
Ubuntu is fine. I do understand the hate, though. Snap is contentious for very good reasons, Canonical makes major decisions by fiat rather than listening to the community (see Snap again), and they have corporate motives that are often at odds with the spirit and desires of the greater FOSS community (like forking upstream projects instead of contributing).
Mint is still based on Ubuntu, for example, but I feel it’s a more ethical suggestion than Ubuntu itself.
I sometimes feel like bare-metalling FreeDOS. Except that and modern laptops, ha-ha, shouldn’t work too well, but at the same time Lenovo even sold some with it pre-installed.
Would just play X-Wing and TIE Fighter and WarCraft II, edit simple text documents, smile at how right it’d feel.
This place is constantly shilling Linux, decrying LLMs, and downvoting anything that doesn’t fit the status quo.
Don’t get me wrong I like this place on the whole, but I’ve just come to realise nobody here actually wants to engage with anybody different and just dog piles.
It’s not on the list, but I’ve been rocking the same KDE fedora installation through about ten version upgrades. Once you dial in your settings and software choices, it’s fairly solid.
The only issue I can recall was some weirdness with steam’s dependencies blocking my last version upgrade, but it was easily bypassed.
I started with pop os 5 years ago and haven’t found a reason to change. I’m not hugely techy and just wanted something to play games on. Had very few issues overall.
Works great with steam. I went back on my ethics and played wow classic for a while though and battle.net was a little tricky for me to get going. But yeah steam works perfectly.
Pop!_OS is my top recommendation for Windows expats, followed by Mint (Cinnamon Edition), and then Bazzite (KDE Plasma desktop). Bazzite is so, so, so good, but it has some unique features that make it a little more frustrating for Windows power users who are new to Linux. But honestly they are all good. Pick one, and if you aren’t vibing with it, try something else.
Also, keep in mind that “distro” and “desktop environment (DTE)” are two different things. Sometimes a distro has a default DTE and sometimes it gives you a choice. The DTE makes the biggest difference to your experience. There are many different DTEs, but the two biggest are GNOME (MacOS-like and moderately customizable) and KDE Plasma (Windows-like by default, but very customizable).
I cannot recommend Bazzite. It’s an atomic distribution, which is pioneer tech that tries to make some things better but in effect makes a lot of things more difficult. FWIW, I’ve been using Linux for 20+ years.
There has never been a better time to switch to Mint, Pop_OS, or Bazzite.
Of course we need three flavor so we don’t have a single majority and each of them have their own nuisance. Same as JavaScript libraries.
You could just say Linux, lol.
We gotta stop upvoting distro-shilling.
They are probably the best distros for newcomers. I think its an absolutely valid comment.
I find that’s very unhelpful to potential Linux converts. They will quickly find out that there are infinite flavors of Linux, become overwhelmed, and give up.
When you are introducing newcomers to Linux, it’s best to make specific suggestions.
Yeah, but which one? There are hundreds of distros. There’s nothing wrong giving some pointers to begginers out there.
Try just telling someone that they need to switch to Linux with no other details. They’ll either get confused/overwhelmed by choice, or possibly choose one that isn’t user friendly and hate it.
People have to start somewhere, and I see no issue with recommending user friendly distros to get them going.
Right and people that don’t know which distros to use will get lost
How are you supposed to get new people in without advising?
I feel bad for the people that get herded by shills.
Switching OS requires proper DD anyway. What’s wrong with giving people ideas to start their journey?
Because you people don’t actually care about helping others, just shilling what you personally like.
The shilling has ideological and logical underpinnings though…
Sure if you don’t care about privacy, security and autonomy, this shilling is whatever.
But for anyone freedom enjoyer, it will resonate. That’s target.
Do you expect fedi crowd to be shilling corporate parasite solutions?
If so, what’s your logic and ideology for that?
Are you ok?
Make sure to report me to reddit for a mental health check dear
So I know for sure I hit the G spot 🐸
And yet here you are on Lemmy, I assume out of your own volition and independent thought
🥱
GNU / Linux :)
But not Ubuntu. We don’t like Ubuntu here, I feel like
Ubuntu is fine. I do understand the hate, though. Snap is contentious for very good reasons, Canonical makes major decisions by fiat rather than listening to the community (see Snap again), and they have corporate motives that are often at odds with the spirit and desires of the greater FOSS community (like forking upstream projects instead of contributing).
Mint is still based on Ubuntu, for example, but I feel it’s a more ethical suggestion than Ubuntu itself.
Yeah, went Mint 18 months ago. Started at MSDOS in the 1990s, ended at W10.
Well done!
I sometimes feel like bare-metalling FreeDOS. Except that and modern laptops, ha-ha, shouldn’t work too well, but at the same time Lenovo even sold some with it pre-installed.
Would just play X-Wing and TIE Fighter and WarCraft II, edit simple text documents, smile at how right it’d feel.
Did you see that e-mail?
“Nope!”
I am sure the people who just lost their job will be super happy about that.
This place is constantly shilling Linux, decrying LLMs, and downvoting anything that doesn’t fit the status quo.
Don’t get me wrong I like this place on the whole, but I’ve just come to realise nobody here actually wants to engage with anybody different and just dog piles.
We are the left wing version of r/conservative.
Already on the way babayyy. Ubuntu gang here we gooooo I know, i know. There are other popular distros but I wanted to start there
Ubuntu is great for begginers, go for it
Way to go!
Ubuntu is perfectly valid, feels very mac os
I will be looking into these, thanks for sharing! Any top recommendations from the three??
It’s not on the list, but I’ve been rocking the same KDE fedora installation through about ten version upgrades. Once you dial in your settings and software choices, it’s fairly solid.
The only issue I can recall was some weirdness with steam’s dependencies blocking my last version upgrade, but it was easily bypassed.
I started with pop os 5 years ago and haven’t found a reason to change. I’m not hugely techy and just wanted something to play games on. Had very few issues overall.
Sorry to sound absolutely dumb, but does it work well with things like steam?
I primarily only use Adobe (learning Affinity) and Steam. I’m a pretty basic bitch ngl lmao! Pop_OS looks CLEAN on their website
Every issue I’ve had has been easily fixable with searching and following instructions. There’s not been many issues, and I can do it anyone can.
Works great with steam. I went back on my ethics and played wow classic for a while though and battle.net was a little tricky for me to get going. But yeah steam works perfectly.
Stay away from HP. Secureboot will re-enable itself whenever it wants, and the kernel panic is scary if you don’t realize that’s what’s happening.
Also…
Oh if your looking for a distro? Mint is a great entry point (and even can support crusty old graybeards as well).
Pop!_OS is my top recommendation for Windows expats, followed by Mint (Cinnamon Edition), and then Bazzite (KDE Plasma desktop). Bazzite is so, so, so good, but it has some unique features that make it a little more frustrating for Windows power users who are new to Linux. But honestly they are all good. Pick one, and if you aren’t vibing with it, try something else.
Also, keep in mind that “distro” and “desktop environment (DTE)” are two different things. Sometimes a distro has a default DTE and sometimes it gives you a choice. The DTE makes the biggest difference to your experience. There are many different DTEs, but the two biggest are GNOME (MacOS-like and moderately customizable) and KDE Plasma (Windows-like by default, but very customizable).
I recommend Mint. It’s super easy to install and maintain. And very easy to use.
I cannot recommend Bazzite. It’s an atomic distribution, which is pioneer tech that tries to make some things better but in effect makes a lot of things more difficult. FWIW, I’ve been using Linux for 20+ years.
Just go with regular Fedora KDE Desktop. https://fedoraproject.org/kde/
I see that Fedora uses Btrfs, so it should be able to take file system snapshots, which are sort of an alternative to the immutable thing, isn’t it?
Yes, but not really. It can be convenient. Just remember it takes more space so provision accordingly for /.