• Pissed@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    🤦‍♂️ Obviously never been involved in any left wing activism, because oh boy oh boy you’d quickly realise just how authoritarian our liberal democracies are.

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      4 hours ago

      Liberal Democracies being authoritarian doesn’t mean leftist governments can’t be. It’s not a zero sum game.

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        3 hours ago

        It actually does, if they’re leftist.

        Also define authoritarian in anyway that excludes any possible state you would support, and includes a state you’ve been told is authoritarian by people currently raping children in concentration camps.

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          53 minutes ago

          One does not exclude the other however much you jump to logical fallacies. Exaggerate to make your point all you want, it still doesn’t make it any less realistic.

          We really have been too tolerant of intolerance. Just like fascists, you guys need to be ostracised and where applicable prosecuted. Authoritarian capitalism/authoritarian quasi capitalist/communism - both are bed fellows, and both need to go.

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            31 minutes ago

            One does, actually, by the definition of ‘left-wing’ politics, exclude the other.

            Horseshoe theory and other ‘enlightened centrist’ viewpoints were created solely, and I do mean solely, to disrupt class consciousness. Nearly all propaganda you believe that make the USSR or China seem bad was created by the US wholesale, with some being created by criminals given extremely cushy paychecks for life for utilizing their background to give legitimacy to stories made up by people that never left the US.

            ‘Intolerance,’ doesn’t enter into it. Period. There isn’t any documented accounts of that from any left wing government. Period.