This is the most accurate, definitive AI experience I’ve ever seen captured.
It will do everything but the thing it was designed for, and you have to sudo brute force it in order to actually gain any utility out of it lol
I wasn’t sure - it does really work when you try it. 10 results, and… NO ADS even. This is a great hack to get Google back
Ah, finally. My skills from being an RP server moderator finally coming to fruition.
I use Presearch and generally the results are good enough for my use. Just block the ads and ignore the crypto scam. Seirdy also has a pretty exhaustive list of search engines to choose from.
U try startpage.com ?
I’ve been using Startpage and loving the results mostly. There’s a big section at the top of most searches that bugs me though. It’s like an alternative search query written several different ways, but I have to scroll past it every single search.
Apex enshitification
hahahahaha
Lmfao
See, old “Don’t be evil” Google would’ve put a hidden thing here to return something like “Error 6900: Internet Not Found” with a cozy little image of a person stepping outside their house into the sunshine with lush green ground beneath their feet and a helpful puppy or kitten guiding their way. They’d even have gone so far as to require that you clear out your cookies/cache and restart your browser to regain the ability to go to any websites, including theirs.
People who still use google these days just like licking the boot
If there is no decent alternative people will use it.
Wtf we have so many good alternatives for search engines, what are you smoking?
What internet do you live in?
I use Duck duck go at work and Qwant (European) privately.
Both are infinitely better than Google and They’re only my preferred ones, there are dozens out there.
DDG and Ecosia use Bing, so depending on why you want to ditch Google, it’s hardly a real alternative (to big tech). Qwant is slow and shows far less results. I still have to go to Google for some queries.
I do the same, but at times I use Ecosia instead of Qwant. The results are borderline unusable, just like in case of Google - too many commercial links, disrespect for the exact expressions I use or their proximity in text. If something is called similar to a product… So I find these search engines similar to Google, I use them to avoid Google, not to get better results. When image searching, I sometimes go back to Google when I don’t get enough results - Google usually finds more.
Less of a bad thing is still a win.
I use DDG and everytime the results are bad I go back to Google. That happens like 1 out of 10 of all my searches. It’s kinda cumbersome but whatever, I got used to it.
And now with what’s going on with the forced AI, it seems I’m stuck with what DDG has to offer.
many go
And you can do
!g search_termfor this 1/10 time, not so cumbersome in the end
Startpage is one example. Almost every non-professional piece of software has good alternatives
Just a reminder, that Startpage was aquired by publicly traded advertisement company System1:
https://support.startpage.com/hc/en-us/sections/5194384379412-Startpage-System1
Yes, I know. It does display ads by default. On the other hand I don’t see how else they should make money if they want to stay gratis
Brother, google became so shit that Bing is better at this point
Here is a tech tip if you have to use Google for whatever reason.
Add a custom search engine in Firefox and enter this URL:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=web
This takes you directly to the “web” search tab and skips all the shitty AI summaries and wigdets.Here is another tip: use DuckDuckGo and get useful results and stop feeding the Google Dragon altogether
I’ve had a problem lately where DDG just returns AI generated articles on topics instead of any real resources. It’s not their fault, per se, since it’s just a wrapper for Bing, but it’s pretty lousy.
If I know what to expect, then it’s fine, but if I’m genuinely looking for something new, it’s increasingly frustrating
You can use the no A.I. version of Duck Duck Go instead.
Thanks. I’ll try that out for a while.
No I think they mean the linked webpages in the results are websites entirely generated by AI that Bing search has indexed. I’ve noticed this, too, especially looking for guides or help with very niche topics. It’s incredibly frustrating that not just the search engines but the web itself is filling up with AI slop.
That’s exactly what has been happening with me I’ve noticed. DDG does it too. The top results are AI articles filled with useless filler words with no extra relevance to what I’m actually looking for. It’s just the internet filling with slop. I need a search engine that doesn’t give extra weight to these types of websites and actually gets me relevant guides, forums, posts, etc.
Oh like that, yeah, then that link won’t help either. I’ve had that happen a few times as well, or maybe only noticed it a few times. It’s very frustrating indeed.
I find it’s primarily an issue when looking for information about products. Listicles have always been a pain, but now entire websites show up just to summarize every category of product without adding meaningful review or input.
I’m using Kagi so I can report those sites as AI and have them filtered out for the rest of the community.
nah just use startpage.com or duckduckgo
if you have to use Google for whatever reason
For what reason would one “have to” use Google?
Images, for one.
They specifically said if you have to use Google. I have set my default search engine to ddg on every device and prefer to never touch Google but I run into searches not uncommonly which I know should be pretty easy to find, but ddg just falls over on. Google almost always comes through on those. I hate Google and think their search engine keeps getting worse, but it still has a practical use.
What are the odds this will still work next week after Google allegedly plans to completely kill the search function and just serve up AI hallucinations whenever you try to look anything up?
I appreciate all the suggestions here, because I’ve been using Google and getting really annoyed by the AI overview. At first glance it seems useful, but it’s frequently just plain wrong or very misleading.
I think I’m going to just drop Google altogether, even though I’ve been using it pretty much as long as it existed. I remember first finding out about it when my dad worked at Kodak way back in the day.
Udm14.com is a direct link to this
Or, if you want, you can use a real search engine and therefore vote with your data against this change
Where this real search engine?
Searxng
You can vote with anything! Your vote, your voice, your wallet, your data, a gun, so many possibilities. THIS is what democracy is about!
A board with a nail in it!
I googled it, and for others who don’t understand the word salad in the title, “RP” means “role play.”
I googled it, and for others who don’t understand the word salad, it’s is a dish of mixed ingredients, typically including vegetables, fruits, grains, or proteins. It is usually served cold or at room temperature, often tossed in a sauce or dressing.
No it isn’t. That’s a salad. A word salad is almost the same thing but the only ingredient is words. It tastes horrible.
I never said anything about a word salad. I just looked up the definition for the word ‘salad’. :)
I see the conundrum.
Ah, see I thought you meant the word salad but actually you were talking about the word salad !
I googled it, and for others who don’t understand the word salad, it’s is a dish of mixed ingredients, typically including vegetables, fruits, grains, or proteins. It is usually served cold or at room temperature, often tossed in a sauce or dressing.
who don’t understand the word “salad”
“Groceries. It’s an old fashioned word. I don’t know what it means. I invented that word, by the way.”
I think the joke is that he googled it, and google’ shitty LLM returned an almost-but-not-at-all-accurate response to the question because LLMs don’t understand context. Or anything, really
I wrote “RP !ud” in DuckDuckGo, and felt like a wizzard.
Wait, you can bang after the term?
You can bang wherever you want. <3
“SHALL I BANG YOU ESTEEMED SIRS AND OR MADAMES?”
Thanks 👍🏻
Ignore the snark reply. I found your comment useful
I just found the comment already very snarky, so I replied in the same way. They didn’t have to call the whole title word salad just because of one abbreviation.
I ignored
smdh.
&udm=14still works. For now.?
It’s just a flag you can add to your search urls that returns a regular web search. There are firefox extensions that do it for you just search for udm14
Any idea what it stands for?
Try this: https://tedium.co/2024/05/17/google-web-search-make-default/
To be fair, it doesn’t explain what udm stands for but does talk more about what it does
I use -noai at end of the search string.
This might be better if you get actual results and not 10 pages of ads and manipulated results.
Your method is much easier, however.
Doesn’t that just omit results with “noai” in the content?
It removes the ai summary and any reference by ai for me.
I don’t use Google
Or you could, I dunno, not use Google
We are in the midst of weaning. Our child has autism and was trained on google.
Did you mean Tulsa Massacre “-noai”?
And then it won’t let you say no. Can’t let you workaround our bot, after all. Look at that value added for our investors!
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You could always tell it to do that using atomic operations if you prefer.
Humans do LARP just by using A.I.
Click “Web”. Might be hidden behind “More”.
