I hereby vote my share in advance to pump gas into the cooling systems, evacuate the buildings, and ignite one end of the facility.
This will help the AI go faster.
…the country’s largest artificial intelligence companies.
I don’t want that. At all.
The “country’s largest artificial intelligence companies” are houses of cards built on hype. Buying the country into them is basically buying into a pyramid scheme so we all get left holding the bag when the bubble pops. It’s literally the opposite of what I’d want to be holding in the AI space.
It’s a horrible idea.
If Bernie wants a sovereign wealth fund, we should mirror China, Europe, and other countries. Start an open weights LLM program, and publish the models for free, as a public utility to the United States. He can fund companies that are already pushing this, like Huggingface, Cerebras, Intel and such. Even Nvidia is pushing for that, though the message isn’t really being heard.
But OpenAI, XAI, and so on are all worthless in the long term. You could force them to contribute legal training data I guess, but that’s about it.
And it’s not hypothetical. China is already doing this, in a roundabout way, but extremely successfully.
Europe is close to working it out, too.
It’s kind of a brilliant move.
AI heads constantly try to tell us this will be a revolutionary technology that will help everyone. This forces them to put their money where their mouth is and give up a controlling stake.
It also means one hallucinatory techbro can’t decide “8 million new data centers!!!111” on his own.
LOL
You really think the government is going to decide anything against their owners?Fuck off with doomer takes.
“The government” is not a person. It’s lots of individual people executing control. They get more and more of it the less people collectively decide to participate and push alternative ideas to their methods of control. Like, say, mocking the idea the government would ever do anything for them.
Bernie is trying, even knowing there’s often low chance of immediate success. It forces oligarchs to fumble their way through efforts to explain why their position is bad. That can push a lot of people from undecided positions to pro-populist ones.
If New York listened to people like you, they NEVER would have gotten Mamdani in place. You may be vastly underestimating how important it is for the government to maintain some level of popularity with its actions.
LOL
you people are a lost cause.
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I actually don’t want the public to have a financial interest in making these companies succeed
That plan was proposed by these evil companies themselves, that should say a lot.
They are losing billions.
“mandated equity transfer” will be paying top prices for half of this overvalued bubble and the ‘financial interest’ will only mean the public is going to lose all that money when, not if that bubble burst.
Gee, what a coincidence
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/a-plan-for-establishing-a-united-states-sovereign-wealth-fund/
https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/06/openais-vision-for-the-ai-economy-public-wealth-funds-robot-taxes-and-a-four-day-work-week/
That must be a good idea if they are for it, right Bernie?I don’t want a 50% stake. I want all of it shut down and the resources directed to useful things. But I guess this is more feasible.
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Great idea, but make it 51% please.
I have a bridge to sell you
I love you, Bernie, but unless 100% of their profit pay for universal healthcare…
While you’re asking for things that will never happen, shoot for the moon
Making a big fuss asking for things that will never happen and proposing bills only when he’s absolutely sure they will not get enough votes is his whole act.
How old are you?
I ask because you’re either old enough to know better, or too young to know why what he does is important.
If it’s the latter, I’ll explain it to you. If it’s the former, I’ll explain it to you and hope that you still think that bettering society is worth making a “big fuss” rather than letting a bunch of fascist frauds run over you with the dump truck full of the cash they stole from you, your parents, and the rest of us while they burn the rest of the world and our entire future to the ground.
If you think that the words of Bernie Sanders are empty, I will be very happy to explain to you how they are not
LOL How old are you that you don’t see the obvious game Bernie the Sheepdog is playing?
I will be very happy to explain to you how they are not
Sure, let’s hear it, always up for a laugh
I wasn’t asking how old you were to insult you nor to imply that you’re a child. Sanders’s message hit a particular generation at a particular time. One’s age has an importance in this discussion, so don’t take that question as an insult. It was not intended that way.
I am genuinely trying to determine how old you are and your level of political engagement. Believe it or not, that’s pretty important in how I am going to speak to you regarding your priorities, how you see the world, etc.
But I’m also trying to engage you in good faith. If you just don’t wanna hear it, I’m not gonna waste either of our time.
Edit: how about we start with some of the specific things that Sanders spoke of with which you feel especially disillusioned
OK.
But I’m also trying to engage you in good faith. If you just don’t wanna hear it, I’m not gonna waste either of our time.
Same goes for me, as my experience with people who defend him usually devolve into insults when they run out of arguments.
I am definitely old enough and had an interest in geopolitics since the 80’s.
I’m European BTW.
Since the US imperialist cancer has consequences everywhere I obviously need to know a lot about their local politics and system.
With the advantage of not being in one of their 2 cults, being able to have unbiased info and not suffering from the extreme propaganda and awful media the US has.
As clearly most of the population can’t think outside their box.
I am very curious why you, as you claim to be knowledgeable and interested in these matters still can’t see through Sanders.
So let’s have it.Ok… lemme start by saying that, despite my perhaps poorly stated previous comments, i’m not here to defend Bernie Sanders, specifically, but rather the things he spoke to. The philosophies and the policies he stood up to defend.
Secondly, as the hours have worn on, and my medication has worn on, I have been enduring, serious, oral surgery, and any serious conversation, henceforth…
Well, I’m sorry, but I need to go to sleep. I want to continue this, but I’ve taken pain medication, and I’m about to come very loopy. I’ll hit you back in about six or eight hours.
I really want to continue this conversation, especially with someone who is not an American. This isn’t about Bernie Sanders, specifically, but about the sort of things he was thinking about. I hope that clears a few things up right away, and I’d like to clear more of it up moving forward. I’ll get back to you, but I really need to pass the hell out. My mouth is killing me.
All good, take care, have some rest and feel better.
So Bernie the Snake wants the public to be left holding the bag when that obvious bubble bursts.
The public is going to be left holding the bag when the obvious bubble bursts regardless.
Certainly, but then they would need to ask the public to pay for them while it wasn’t their problem.
That’s different from suckering a part of the gulibles to buy into this disaster waiting to happen.
Then they can blame them, markets have risks, unforeseen circumstances,etc…All you’re arguing is optics, which matters for like a week in the 24 hour news cycle. I’m hearing a 100% chance to lose turning into a less than 100% chance to lose. We’re already facing water and energy issues with no recourse or recompense.
You’re hearing it wrong.
Did the government do anything against these companies or their data centers before?
And do you think when that same government has 50% of it that is ‘giving it to the public’ as this clown claims?
You will only lose more.
Why do you think those AI companies all suggested the exact same Sovereign Wealth Fund plans?
Are they known to be altruistic?
Or is it that they are losing billions and are the extreme opposite of profitable?
There will be no recompense, only gigantic debt, and that is the only thing that will be ‘given to the public’.
Sure Bernie the snake sell it well, but what do you think to acquire 50 percent of equity of these companies means?
It means the government is buying that stock at the current extremely high and overvalued price.
Why would these companies need government money if all the investors would be dying to invest in this great profitable technology?
No, the current investors will make their huge profits from selling them to ‘the public’ and they will be left with nothing.
Is 2008 too long ago? They were hyping up the market until the very last day.
This is nothing more than an early bail out.
And it’s definitely going to work, as all the gullible Bernie clowns fall for it.
Let me know when you get those profits OK?I’m not completely sold on it either. 2008 is at the top of my mind, which is what going to happen again if we stay this course. It’s great that a representative is trying to do something that may have a snowball’s chance in hell of passing in this admin before it’s too late.
Where is this Bernie the snake shit coming from? He’s one of the few representatives with integrity that’s consistently fought for the working class. Name 5 senators in the past 20 years you’d put above him.
great that a representative is trying to do something that may have a snowball’s chance
Have you read my comment?
It is not doing something except stiffing you with the bill.
And it’s this deceptive language and tactics that earned him the name.
Or Bernie the Sheepdog, as he’s usually called because of his gatekeeping and keeping the sheep from running away from the corporate dems, the ones he invariably supports.
I suggest you look into him and separate his words from his actions.
People are too trusting.
That’s all I can say about it, I have stuff to do unfortunately.
