• flandish@lemmy.world
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    they’re basically doing what the US already does, for different reasons, but yeah… this is a natural byproduct of capitalism’s need for profit.

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        Russia is evil, for sure.

        • What do you call what’s going on in Iran?

        • Venezuela?

        • Alligator Alcatraz?

        • “Drug runner” civilian boat airstrikes in the Caribbean?

        • Anything coming out of the supreme court these days?

        • 1.8 billion dollar slush fund for insurrectionists?

        Don’t get me wrong, I think russian interference brought us this administration in some capacity, but the people doing the dirty deeds every day are americans. An illegal order is an illegal order (civilian boat air strikes.)

        Don’t even get me started on domestic surveillance of people who call out these heinous things. The mass cancellation of visas, the near total standstill of green card issuance to anybody other than white south africans…

        To say that a money grab isn’t a huge component of everything out of project 2025 and this administration would be blindingly ignorant. This is costing people lives all over the world, and it would from JUST USAID going away.

        I’m really glad that the EU is going away from US tech, even though that means i’m less likely to have a job in a few years as a tech worker. I think we’re going to see a lot less US centric world politics in the coming decades. Also pretty awesome that ukraine is being so successful now despite current administration interference / collusion.

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          Yeah, a russian propaganda bot. Classic playbook of posting correct criticism of the USA in the wrong place. Trumps USA is, of course, not a great country. But we are talking about Russia here. Do not try to steer the discussion about Putins crimes into one about the USA and Trump.

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      this is a natural byproduct of capitalism’s need for profit.

      This is more a direct consequence of them waging the biggest and bloodiest war of aggression this continent has seen since the Nazis for more than four years now.

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        biggest and bloodiest war of aggression this continent has seen since the Nazis

        That’s because the media doesn’t fully show what is happening in the rest of the world.

        With some digging, the wars in the rest of the world also reveal their western influence. The only difference is that most people fighting and dying are not white.

        I don’t think that we should make it an issue that the war is fought in Europe. We should treat it like any other war in the world. Everything else condones the other wars too much.

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          That’s because the media doesn’t fully show what is happening in the rest of the world.

          Look closely:

          biggest and bloodiest war of aggression this continent has seen since the Nazis

          So: thank you, but no derailing here.

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            this continent has seen

            My argument is that in a globalized world we should know about all wars and it doesn’t matter where they are fought. Why should there be no war in Europe if we are happy to support wars all over the world? Europeans are not more worthy of being spared of war than anybody else in this world.

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              Stop your whataboutism and derailing and stick to the topic at hand. If you don’t want/can’t, then don’t engage in this discussion.

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                this continent has seen

                It’s a play on the word seen. The European stones haven’t seen bigger wars, but the eyes of the European people have. Europe has seen those wars, but has chosen to ignore them.