Why do you need to rev it early in the morning for 5 minutes waking up the neighborhood?

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    Attention seeking behavior. They have an internal desire to be noticed all the time.

    Most aren’t trying to be assholes, just noticed.

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    Electric cars and trucks will reduce a lot of noise pollution, but electric motorcycles will take us from quieter to eerily quiet… Can’t happen soon enough.

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      No fucking chance. Motorbrains will never abandon their custom exhausts. For them riding a bike without annoying everyone around doesn’t make any sense. Why bother if no one is looking at you?

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          They will just slow down right before it. It will be great for people living right next to it but wont solve the issue.

          The proper solution would be to de legalize modified exhausts. Both sales and possession. Treat it like fireworks or other socially harmful things. If you stop someone riding with one you charge them with possession. You look for workshops that install them and charge them with possession. You look for stores that sell them and charge them with sales.

          The nice thing about it is that you don’t really have to look for them like for drugs. You can hear to from kilometers away, just part next to highway and stop the obvious offenders. Small fine for first time offenders and huge one for re-offenders. That’s what they did in Singapore and it’s working.

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      I would take a motorcycle revving over the noise some EVs make. Holy shit it is the most annoying sound I’ve ever heard and I’m terrified of a world where all cars sound like that.

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    Carbureted or not, it certainly helps if either the manufacturer or the owner doesn’t put on a super loud exhaust, I own a bike with a relatively quiet exhaust to the point I’ve gotten multiple offers from family and relatives to have it swapped to a louder exhaust, and they don’t understand when I tell them I absolutely despise that shit

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      My dad has been riding most of his life, and I have most of mine. Both of us have noticed that the “loud pipes save lives” slogan is a farce. If a driver is tuning out they will not notice your exhaust. If a driver is on their phone it won’t make a difference.

      The trick is to ride defensively and wear a helmet. There’s a reason neither me nor my dad got into a serious accident get, its because we believe every car is out to get us, not that “if I’m loud and obnoxious they’ll notice me”

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        I knew a guy who would wear a high visibility vest like road construction workers wear. Also a bright orange helmet. It seemed to make a difference.

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      It’s not about running right or wrong. Engines run differently at different temps. Idling after start isn’t necessary if you get on and ride immediately though. But I did have to choke mine a bit for the first few minutes.

      Got rid of it though. It was stupid noisy and I hated myself on it until I could get out of the city.

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    Being from the home state of Harley Davidson, more sympathetic I could not be. I hate it lol. They have giant rallies here all the time, back some years ago there was some big anniversary and the whole city was literally filled with them. It was kinda cool but loud as hell. I had a lot of thoughts about how the thought of freedom became intertwined with the freedom of mobility and for a while the motorcycle was sold as the ultimate symbol of freedom in stuff like Easy Rider, it went from hippies into bikers and addicted a generation to leather and gasoline. They did a hell of a job with it.

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      The thing is, motorbikes do give the ultimate in freedom … check out C90Adventures or Itchyboots on youtube, they’ve travelled the world in a free manner that wouldn’t be possible by other means.

      I have several motorbikes, the ones I use outside of competition are very quiet. They give me freedom.

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        I’ve been riding over 40 years. I never understood this freedom bullshit. In a car, I can drive any time, in rain and snow, year around.

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          And how many unpaved tracks do you take your car down?

          Do you lift it over rocks and past wash-outs?

          Do you wheel it into hotel rooms for the night when you’re in a remote Peruvian village?

          Do you drive it down back alleys that are a meter wide?

          Do local kids smile and wave when they see your car?

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        Yeah, there are cool bikes of all sorts for sure, I would like to try sometimes. I was just saying the particular bike (harleys, choppers, big loud things) and lifestyle that was sold as freedom was anything but, those bikes cost as much as a car now.

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          Yes, and Harleys are big and heavy which severely limits their freedom to paved roads and only maybe the most gentle of unpaved tracks.

          So, freedom was available all along, but not from those trying to market it as a capitalist lifestyle

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            Harley makes an adventure bike to go anywhere, but I would not trust it to not break and it’s overpriced.

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              That tank can’t make it to any remote places, you can’t even lift it in your own if you’re a woman.

              My trailie weighs 105kg, and I can lift one end at a time - essential for putting it in the back of a pickup truck when it breaks down

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        I am thinking of getting a bike and exploring the south american continent but I know nothing about bikes. Where do I begin looking? Recommend me shows, yt channels, books and bike models please!!

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          FIRST, go take a safety/training course. Get your license and PRACTICE, probably for several years. become proficient in every situation you might face.

          Then worry about exploring S.A. or other places in the world.

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          FortNine is the best motorcycle Youtuber, and it’s not even close.
          For exploring South America, there are 2 options:
          A BMW R1200GS if you want to do it like a German tourist, or a Honda Supercup if you want to ride like the locals.

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          Look at those two channels I mentioned in my comment above. They both went to South America.

          If you know nothing about bikes, learn how to ride properly before you go (and if you’re in the US, get more lessons than the minimum needed for your license). For South America you only need a small bike, like a 150cc. They’re easier to handle, cheaper to buy and run, and a good second hand one will attract less attention.

          How’s your Spanish?

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            I never owned a bike. I have the license to drive them but never used it. Been thinking of crossing south america for a long time so I will first get the motorcycle and get used to it for about a year or so and then the road it is. Was researching motorcycle models, brands and prices on my country this afternoon (don’t wanna doxx myself, hope you understand). Came up with what I think would be required characteristics for the bike: It should have enough power to accelerate comfortably from about 50 to 75 mph, 56 to 81 mph, and ideally even 62 to 87 mph when needed. I’m not talking about cruising at those speeds all the time, but having enough reserve power for safe overtaking on highways. In my untrained view, safety would come from being able to pass slower vehicles quickly and spend less time in the opposite lane, rather than just having a high top speed. I need the bike to be popular around my area so I can get parts when it breaks and it should be comfortable for my body (test driving it will be then).

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              Amazing, everything you just said was wrong.

              I’m sorry to say it again, but GET LESSONS. More than the minimum.

              In South America you’re not going to want to do those speeds unless you just want to go on a main paved highway, blast from one side to the other without seeing anything, and then call it a day.

              A 150 is plenty, and used by locals.

              Seriously, go watch those channels I mentioned. If you prefer to read, then try “Lois on the Loose”, she did the tip of Alaska to the bottom of South America on a 225cc trail bike.

              Having a big fast bike does nothing to help safety. I’ve had bikes from a 70cc step-through up to a 175hp liter bike. Right now the bike I use most for touring in Spain and Morocco is a 125cc trail bike with 10hp (though I have a 400cc bike for commuting / motorway / pillion use).

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                Thanks for the recommendations and for sticking up on me xD. Yeah as you can still I have a lot to learn

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                  If you’re willing to learn, you can craft yourself an amazing adventure that you’ll remember for the rest of your life … I try and give good advice, because that sort of motorbike touring is something I love and I wish I could share it with more people :-)

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    They are stupid and they think that if they like the noise everyone else likes it

    or

    They are stupid and they think no one else can hear it.

    To sum up: they are stupid.

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    They’re assholes.

    Been riding in a European city with a bike that can go from 2k to 12k rpm. Of course in resident areas I kept it so low to be indistinguishable from the cars around me.

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    Once I was home in the afternoon, with my months-old baby finally napping after god knows how long nursing her (very difficult to fall asleep between chronic stomach ache attacks, choppy nights, really miserable at that time).

    I hear a motorbike in the street, revving up the engine. I step outside, go to the (young) guy and tell him that my baby is trying to nap. The fucker says nothing, looks me in the eye and takes off at maximum speed/noise.

    Not that I really wished it at the moment, but statistically, the bastard is dead by now. Or maybe he has kids of his own and he’s doing good, being nice to people - who knows?

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    How else are they supposed to let everyone else know they’re riding a motorcycle?

    Have you ever noticed when walking on the sidewalk that motorcyclists always make eye contact? They need to be sure people are observing them.

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    I seem to remember South Park having a word for inconsiderate people like this, but I can’t remember what it was…

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    Depending on the bike, you may need to rev it a bit to warm it up and keep from stalling.

    My monster Harley is loud as hell, which is why I bought the Suzuki. Harley is for long trips, and the Suzuki, which is far quieter than the neighbors kids, is for riding to work or the corner store.

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      What keeps you from reving it while you’re already driving away?
      That’ll warm up the engine just fine.
      Or even better: Put quality synthetic oil with the right viscosity in, have your carb cleaned and tuned correctly so it starts properly, and put a new muffler on it while you’re in the shop.

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        As far as why not rev while riding, the RPM required for slow technical control, me getting off the patio, across the yard, and through the fence, on the Harley is way too precise to try and also manage blipping the engine to keep it running.

        As far as oil and tuning, it has the right oil, and it has a custom ECU that handles all the tuning automatically based on how I ride.

        One of the mufflers did fall off a few years ago, and to maintain symmetry I removed the other one.

        Maybe that’s why the bike is loud as fuck

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          If the bike had its mufflers removed, then the ECU map won’t work properly.

          So many idiots make their bikes louder and slower.

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          If it has an ECU and can’t idle from cold, something is fucked.
          Also, I hope your neighbor starts to knock down walls with a jackhammer at 3am.

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            You obviously didn’t read my earlier response, stating that all this is the reason I bought a second, quiet motorcycle for early morning rides to work etc.

            The beast only comes out for long trips, and for that I prep it the day before and park it in the street.

            I’m not an asshole, I’m just a guy who has a loud bike.

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          One of the mufflers did fall off a few years ago, and to maintain symmetry I removed the other one. Maybe that’s why the bike is loud as fuck

          muffle

          /ˈməf(ə)l/

          To muffle means to deaden or make a sound quieter by wrapping, covering, or shielding the noise source.

          Yeah I think we cracked the case