• WereCat@lemmy.world
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    Sometimes I go on the last second of green light and think “that was close!” and then look into a mirror and there are 2 cars and truck behind me.

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    I had an argument with my uncle once. In Germany, there is “Pfand” on bottles and soda cans. You pay a little extra when you buy one and when you return it to the “Pfandautomat” you get back the extra amount. He was arguing that this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules. I have avoided conversations with him since

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      this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules

      Well it is, but that’s not the bad case of it.

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    I’m always amazed to think that my life sometimes only holds to a red light and the car people’s willingness to obey the law. If either were missing, only their will to keep their car clean could save me.

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      I’ve lived in plenty of places where when the lights worked, they were optional.

      What you’re forgetting is that the other people don’t want to fuck up their car by hitting your car. Usually. Like 98% of the time. It’s the people looking for some mutually assured destruction that are the hazard, and they’re few and far between.

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      I got mocked a few times as a kid for waiting until I see the cars stop at the red light before crossing. “Mate you can go, the lights red, they HAVE TO stop!”

      No pal. They’re supposed to stop. Doesn’t mean shit until i see it happen

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        My friend asked why I’m looking both ways before crossing when it’s a one-way street.

        Same deal. It’s legally one-way, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t some impatient dickhead blasting down it the wrong way regardless.

        First rule of road safety (as either a pedestrian or a driver) is to assume everyone else on the road is an absolute moron with no ability to drive.

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          First rule of road safety (as either a pedestrian or a driver) is to assume everyone else on the road is an absolute moron with no ability to drive.

          This is how I go generally in life. /jk

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        Yeah I wait until the man goes green because there are some crossings at intersections where people will go “Oh but but I have to turn here, so I’m GONNA TURN HERE” and come right thought when it’s clearly red. Maybe they’re allowed to or used to be allowed to. Maybe they only look at the light for the perpendicular intersecting road and don’t realise intersections literally alternate. I hate the drivers where I live.

        At non intersections, still do the same thing. There are some really shitty designed crossings that send the lights red but won’t tell you to cross then they just release the cars again. This is maybe traffic dampening? But it’s shitty to play that game at a place with a dedicated pedestrian crossing, just give a window where humans can get over.

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    Unironically though. Just use your fucking brain. Sometimes its safe to drive through a red light, sometimes its unsafe to drive through a green light.

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      Sometimes its safe to drive through a red light, sometimes its unsafe to drive through a green light.

      What the fuck

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      A user by the name unexposedhazard is telling me I should push through the red light. Nah, I ain’t falling for that shit.

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        In car i would never, because you cant hear or see shit, but on a bike, when there is zero traffic and you can see far down all the roads then why not? People walk over roads that have no traffic lights all the time and nobody is worried there…

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          I don’t think the term “drive”, which you used in the first comment, is generally associated with cycling.

          I understand what you’re getting at about using your head, but unfortunately we live in a society that needs to cater to the lowest common denominator.

          At 3am, when there’s nobody around, and you’ve slowed down and can see for absolute certainty that’s it’s clear then yeah you could perhaps justifiably run the red light.

          But then that concept gets normalised, people start pushing boundaries. Trying it at midnight when there’s still some traffic and pedestrians around. Trying it at 4pm because “it was quiet”. Guess what’s going to happen? Baring in mind how many terrible drivers you witness every single day.

          With driving we need to apply Kantian principles.

          “I ought never to act except in such a way that I could also will that my maxim should become a universal law.”

          Or more simply: “What if everybody did this?”

          The purpose of the lights is to remove the requirement for everyone’s judgement at junctions, because human judgement has been shown to often be poor and result in collisions. Yeah, sometimes it may be unoptimised and you have to wait an extra minute, but really, what’s the rush?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics

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          In car i would never, because you cant hear or see shit, but on a bike why not?

          That’s true, yes. It’s allowed.