What can we do to stop this?
My plan is to just never submit to an age verification. Change servers or self host if necessary. Worse comes to worse, we log off.
Better parenting.
That’s not a joke. This is a stupid government’s way of trying to halt generational harm and decline due to low quality parents. Everything listed is a “if they won’t, we’ll have to” solution. Unfortunately this means every child gets a Nanny State out of it and it’ll fail to work and likely backfire long-term, leading to more nannying.
Stop buying in to the excuses the governments are using to hack at privacy and increase surveillance.
Why?
Because being stupid is stupid.
Do you want authoritarianism, because that’s how you get it.
Why does every government want age verification now, what’s in it for them? Can’t be one started and everyone saw it and thought that’s a great idea let’s introduce it too?
Surveillance
Because it de facto requires everyone using the internet to provide their identity, which is something that gives authoritarian types a huge boner. Once there is no such thing as anonymous discourse, it becomes trivial to target/arrest/harass/brutalize dissenters or indeed anyone the current regime simply doesn’t like.
This amount of surveillance has a really disturbing track record in history. So assuming any politician backing this must be a fascist at heart is the correct approach. These politicians should not be in any position to make any of these decisions. They can’t represent democracy when they declare themselves the enemies of it.
It’s part of the data center push, Palantir, all of it. Centralized info storage so if anyone starts to push back anywhere they know exactly who and where. That and ads. The internet is too anonymous.
It’s the same set of billionaires. A little line between countries doesn’t mean much to them.
Because the wealthy and the elite think we are on the cusp of a world with a massive labor surplus, no jobs, and nothing to follow it. There will be massive unrest, and so they want to lockdown the internet before that happens, so it will be easier to direct the angry horde at each other rather than at the top where all the issues are actually stemming from.
Because Meta and probably Bloomberg too, bribed them.
Social networks see the writing on the wall and want to create regulatory capture. If they provide the identify verification it is another hook into us.
Fucking idiots everywhere
If I hear anything else about C-34 I’m going to slap the benzos out of Jordan Peterson
They are throwing Bill C-22, (L)Awful Access and C-34 at the same time to confuse low information voters.
Now here’s a camera I want full Slo-Mo 4K footage of the Benny’s hitting the floor after you slap them out of JP.
Unpopular opinion but I support the intent of this bill. Kids shouldn’t be exposed to algorithmic content. As it’s currently written it looks to be limited to platforms with a certain threshold of users. Which might actually encourage fediverse growth. Any slippery slop argument is silly and just benefits Zuck and friends.
Ok so ban personal recommendation algorithms for everyone. The only thing I’d settle for is an opt-in for it if it requires ID.
That would be a good option if the social networks didn’t have a long history of acting in bad faith. I think it would be an up hill battle. This seems like a reasonable response
Well, the only solution is horrific mass surveillance then.
Is that seriously your argument? If you’re on commercial social media you’re already under horrific mass surveillance. Is that you Zuck?
Kids need parents that dont give them phones and let them browse the internet freely.
Should we require ID to buy kitchen knives too?
This will lead to one thing. Mass surveillance. Worse than it already is.
This will lead to one thing. Mass surveillance. Worse than it already is.
I’m sick of this stupid argument. If you’re on commercial social media you’re already under mass surveillance FFS 🤦♂️ And if you’re arguing that now the government will have access to this data, they already do! Social media platforms already know how old you are, they even know when you’re taking a shit. It’s just not beneficial for them to take any actions to restrict kids from using their platforms because they need the next generation of addicted users.
Kids need parents that dont give them phones and let them browse the internet freely.
Commercial social media platform are multi billion dollar companies that have built some of the most sophisticated AI/ML algorithms to get people addicted to their platforms. Do you really think the average parent has a chance here? Then consider the network affect. If most of the kids at school are socializing online on these platforms then restricting your child’s access limits their socializing. Social media access for kids needs to be limited by governments.
Should we require ID to buy kitchen knives too?
I don’t think that would be effective at reducing access for minors given knives are readily available in most kitchens.
Have you read this bill? Are you sure your opinions haven’t been manipulated by social media companies that have lobbied hard and flown influencers around to speak on their behalf?
