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For $1k you could do quite better than the Steam Machine (though not mini-sized). Just spec’d out a build on Amazon with AM4 and you’ve got options:
$55 - Thermaltake 700w PSU
$90 - Corsair 4000D case (I have one of these, good airflow and easy build space). This is a place you could skimp to save a few bucks, e.g. - this case is $55
$130 - Cheap 1 TB SSD (went with Timetec, apparently Fikwot is okay too, seems to be a SSD parts manufacturer that started selling direct)
$85 - B550 ATX mobo
$130 - G.Skill 16 GB DDR4 3200
$175 - Ryzen 5 5600 XT OR Ryzen 7 5700 (5600 is faster but 6c/12t, 5700 lower core speed, but 8c/16t. I have a 5600x, no complaints)
$279 or $290 - RX 7600 GPU, or RTX 5050 (up to preference. The 7600 is generally comparable or slightly better overall, but you will see much better with it on Linux. On Windows the 5050 might be the better choice)
Total cost: About $950 (or $915 with the cheaper case), which leaves a bit of overhead to get a cheap cooler for the CPU (optional since it comes with one), and/or additional case fan(s).
Edit - to be clear, you can probably do better than this. I just browsed prices and parts on Amazon, but you might be able to find parts cheaper on https://pcpartpicker.com/ or by purchasing used parts on eBay.
For example, the Ryzen 5 5600x can be found for around $125 on Ebay, that’s $50 savings. And slower DDR4 RAM (2600 base speed) can be found for as low as $65 on Ebay, though I’m not sure if that’s a compromise I’d make, up for debate.
Please don’t buy a Corsair case
If you want it to be like a Steam Machine, you should definitely go for the AMD GPU so you can run Steam OS on it.
Good point. Though personally I prefer running EndeavourOS, I like having an up-to-date kernel and mesa improvements. With regard to the 7600 vs 5050, I was recommending the 7600 because of the recent improvements for VRAM prioritization on 8GB GPUs on Linux.
Since SteamOS is Arch based (same as endeavour) shouldn’t it also have up to date kernel and mesa?
Maybe should, but it doesn’t. Current kernel is 6.16 as of the SteamOS update 3.8 last week. Endeavour is up to 7.0.12. SteamOS is always a few versions behind.
SteamOS takes snapshots of Arch and spends months testing and bug fixing for their hardware
It doesn’t pull directly from Arch
The fixes should mostly still get pushed upstream though
hey, so i suck at picking parts and never know if they’ll fit my build. like, my first job was as a hardware guy back in the 90s and haven’t really kept up. is there a compatibility checker somewhere?
i just don’t want to buy 12 PSUs with the intention of sending 11 back. I know I’m buying from A cOrPoRaTiOn but it still seems dishonest to me
Avoid any random generic Chinese named stuff. Go with legit brands like Thermaltake, Corsair, Cooler Master, EVGA, Seagate, and so on, and if budget allows, get one that’s at least Bronze rated (Silver or Gold is better, but not necessary). If budget doesn’t allow, white certified is fine, but don’t cheap out near capacity.
Use a PSU calculator for the parts you’re selecting. Power supplies are rated to always provide consistent load of at least 80% of rated spec if they’re rated at least white certified (better for Bronze, Silver, and Gold), so aim for a PSU with at least 20% overhead. So if the system uses 600w peak, you’ll want a 720w PSU or better.
In general, an 800w PSU is generally more than enough for most systems, unless you’re buying really power hungry parts (think Nvidia 5080 or 5090 and the highest end Intel chips or AMD threadrippers).
If in doubt, just buy a bigger PSU than you need, like 1000w. Always better to have more than you need, it only uses what the system requires, it’s not like it’s always actually going to draw that 1kw power.
Thank you for the detailed advice. I cheaped out on my psu on my last build and figured it wouldn’t hurt too much.
Oh, past me, you sweet summer child.
Just use pcpartpicker.com
It’s very good at telling you if parts aren’t compatible.
thanks! i’ll give it a try next upgrade
Is that power supply any good?
Thermaltake makes good stuff.
Yeah I was looking at mostly similar parts, but squeezing for a 9060xt. I got to a little less than $1200 on an am5 platform with all new stuff, or $1000 using used ddr4 and ssd on an am4 platform, but still with the 9060xt
Just my $0.02, but my DDR4 system with a 9070XT is doing alright. But I also don’t play competitive FPS, so ymmv
I couldn’t squeeze in the 9060 XT (specifically the 16 GB variant) for under $1k, though if you went with the used parts I mentioned and the cheaper case it should fit the budget. I’m impressed with what you can still do for around $1k today, it’s really just the RAM and SSD prices that hurt the build.
I’d actually be fine with the build I posted, only main difference with mine now is I have a RX 9070 GPU and 32 GB RAM, but I don’t play much that takes advantage of it. I mostly just play indies and retro emulation on my Steam Deck, and only use the rig for the few more intensive games, and for co-op gaming with my wife.
Funny you should post this list. I made a nearly identical spec for my potential upgrade from a 2019 intel pc to a 2021 amd pc in order to keep the ram. Looks like i’ll have to ride these memory sticks until the wheels fall off.
Ultimately, this will likely be the road I take. I just haven’t owned a PC in like 15 years and building one feels daunting because mistakes would be too costly. I know it’s not that hard though, I’ll just watch a few YouTube tutorials.
You can go up to a 5060Ti 8gb for $370 and get +45% more GPU performance compared to a 5050 (which was already better than a steam machine) and still stay under the budget for a steam machine. The 9060 XT 8gb is also about the same price on the other side of the aisle.