I’m lucky enough to have disposable income, I could afford to buy one without it hurting. That said, idk just off principle it feels like an insane ask. Especially considering its not doing anything a PC can’t do (as far as I know). For those not in the know, the cheapest edition will be about 1,000 USD and the most pricy will be around 1,500. To my knowledge, consoles themselves aren’t profitable historically. So, do you think even at this price point Valve is taking a hit? Do you think if this sells well it will drastically increase the cost of other consoles (completely independent of the external factor being hardware shortage due to AI). General steam machine discussion post as well, just dont be a dickhead to anyone.

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    Probably not, but I do have a Steam Deck and might buy a Steam Frame.

    The cost is definitely a factor, but also, I’ve been building computers since the 90s and even my laptop can run everything I play already: I don’t have much need for another computer right now, even if Valve made it. If I did really need a computer, I’d probably just build a better one for cheaper and slap Bazzite or Cachy on it.

    If the price goes down, I might reconsider: I do like supporting companies that do right by their customers and Valve is one of the very few that still seem to make that effort.

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    I don’t really have a use case, but I would have considered picking one up anyways sometime down the line if it was a good deal. It’s unfortunate that it’s not. I was really hoping that Valve would try to subsidize it a little to at least make the cost not as painful, but I understand that it was never an expectation for them to do so.

    I think it’ll sell anyways, since there are people who don’t want to worry about the technical challenges of building their own computer, and also don’t want to spend time looking into and vetting pre-built brands. They just want a pre-built from a brand that they already know and trust. And I think the Steam Machine would fill that niche. It’s a niche of a niche of a niche, but I suspect there would be enough people like that to still sell a decent number of Steam Machines.

    As for the prices of other consoles? Steam Machine is such a low volume product that other consoles would not feel a thing no matter how successful it sells

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    Are you gonna be buying a Steam machine?

    Highly unlikely, so I’ll say no.

    The big appeal (for me) would be simplified gaming for the 1 television in my home, but I almost never get that tv to myself. The other big appeal to me would be to buy the mega max pro pro plus pro maxxx xxxl super mega 2TB with controller version and then sell at a higher price (i.e. scalp), but that’s a little risky and not really a thing I’d ever really do.

    I was only interested in the new controller to begin with, which that release has been botched to hell, so I’m not really likely to get one now. I simply do not want to pay that much AND wait that long to replace the crappy, god-awful, unreliable piece of shit PS4 pro controller of mine. There are a myriad of easier to find and/or cheaper options.

    Going back to the Steam Machine itself: I assume it’s highly unlikely that Valve is selling this kind of hardware at a loss. Given the current pricing, I’m even more confident in that assumption.

    Thousands of people have “done the numbers”, and while I’m not an expert on the parts and prices, the general consensus is that you can build something from off the shelf parts much cheaper. On the one hand, the Steam Machine is using some amount of custom parts and obviously using more expensive stuff for the smaller footprint, but on the other hand, they’d also likely be getting some amount of discount on a good portion of the parts/materials that wouldn’t necessarily be available to hobbyists putting together a home PC. So, I’m going to say that’s a wash.

    You’d have to be very clear and very specific about what you mean “sells well” to comment there. I suspect that Valve knows that regardless of whether the price is competitive on a singular “by the specs” or “per performance” metric, there will be a solid number of people who will buy it. As long as they were relatively conservative with their estimates on the size of that crowd and produced fewer units than that, it will sell out. Selling out is certainly one way to define “sells well”. This hardware was never going to sell at a magnitude similar to established console brands, so anybody using that as a metric for selling well is, I’ll be nice, not being realistic.

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    Maybe in a year or so. My Deck still works fine, not in a rush to replace it. The Frame on the other hand, probably a day one purchase.

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    Not really, I don’t have money for a separate gaming console, and if I had, I’d probably still invest in my work machine. I want mass adoption for it become a reference in optimization for Linux systems but I myself can’t chip in - I think that contradiction is shared by many.

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    I would have, if it was $750. I just can’t justify the price at $300 more. I have an ancient PC that still plays the old games I love and a PS5 for the new games. Not sure there are many PC exclusives that require top of the line hardware to run.

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    No, but i really want one. Maybe in a few years if this insane computer pricing chills out a little or if I get a lot of money somehow.

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    I really like the idea of being able to sit in front of my TV and play Steam games on it as if they were Playstation games. I think I’d play them a lot more than I currently do, since I wouldn’t need to go to my home office and sit where I spend most of my day already.

    I have a pretty powerful PC for work purposes (image and video editing mainly) so it can handle most games fine (maybe not the absolute top end ones, I’m not sure) but I’m not going to move that into the living room.

    So the Steam Machine feels like a great idea…

    But I can’t help but feel that there’ll be issues with it - underpowered maybe, or lacking in features. Plus the rising cost is a pain.

    Will wait to see how it turns out for early adopters. But I hope it’s a success, I really do.

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      I’m the same way. I have a PC but I don’t want to game at the desk anymore, and I have a deck but not everything feels right on the small screen. I was going to get the steam machine, but the price came in higher than expected, and I would also need to get a controller… I will wait and see how the release goes. But there’s some fomo, because the deck has been out of stock for a while (I couldn’t upgrade to oled)

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    lol, no.

    I want to laugh at the ex-friend now for him thinking the steam machine was going to be affordable and be a feasible option for those looking for - AFFORDABLE - building PC options.

    What a moron.

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    Even if I had the money, my hype for it has kinda died since I bought a used desktop from a pawn shop. Would be nice, but I’m not sure I could justify the price just for a more portable desktop like console thing. It sounds nice, but my Ste am Deck already kinda fills that niche for now.

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    I wish I could, but that price is way too high for me to justify it. If the price ever comes down I would be happy to see about getting one. I think at that price point it’s only really accessible to enthusiasts with a lot of disposable income. There were a lot of more casual gamers that were interested in the machine before the price. They were able to get a deck at a $300-400 mark and they were interested to see what the Steam Machine would be offered at. But I am certain at this price that none of those people are going to get one. I’m sure the price is due to AI fucking everyone and not because Valve just wants to squeeze out money. But I think the result of this is that it’s not going to be the widespread go-to option for a lot of gamers. It definitely hurt it’s chances with a ton of potential customers.

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    Why? I already have a PC, and if I didn’t and were in the market for one I have a small one bedroom apartment, which is enough space to not have to budget every square inch. That means paying hundreds of monies more for a PC that’s less powerful just because it’s also a bit more compact would be a poor decision.

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    I can’t find full-time work for over a year. I can’t afford Chinese takeout. I want one, but it’s far outside my price range.