• RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works
    8·
    12 hours ago

    Absolutely true, but that doesn’t change the fact that those AI companies stole the knowledge to train their models and they did this on a massive scale.

    It’s so ridiculous to see a guy torrenting a few movies getting jailtime while the AI companies make off with the biggest IP heist in history and get applauded for it.

    • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      11 hours ago

      There could be a class action lawsuit. I wonder how other major players in AI are managing this, particularly labs in China, Israel, UK, Singapore, and India. Of course each nation had its own laws around copyright. Like isn’t there an equal pushback like this for Chinese AI labs or is it a uniquely American or western thing?

      • RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        47 minutes ago

        I think a major problem is that it is difficult to prove which IP is in the model data. That’s why the AI companies argue that there isn’t a verbatim copy in the model, and therefore it’s not theft. The law in most countries is not equipped to deal with this scenario

        • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          32 minutes ago

          Seems easy enough to prove with a court order. Short of that though I’ve seen people get models to perfectly complete content inferring that information is in there somewhere or at minimum the model is willing to go fetch that information breaching copyright. I am still curious if this is an issue in AI labs elsewhere or if it’s primarily a US / UK issue.