The British military said a cargo ship on the new Omani UN-backed route sustained bridge damage from a projectile, hours after the IRGC warned that vessels without Iranian permission were transiting "illegally".

It takes two to negotiate in good faith. Both Iran and the USA need to want peace, external pressure can only go so far in negotiations.

  • bluGill@fedia.io
    1511·
    3 months ago

    Iran had plenty of guilt.

    Trump shouldn’t have got involved. But Iran has been funding anyone willing to attack Israel long enough that I can’t blame them for attacking Iran. And Israel in turn has been doing stupid things with their settler program. Blame exists all over and nobody with power wants peace (plenty without power want peace). Which is why trump was a fool thinking he could do anything useful.

    • lokalhorst@feddit.orgEnglish
      141·
      3 months ago

      Don’t worry about the downvotes. Many Lemmy users that think “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Iran is a cruel authoritarian system that massacres its own population, is reigned by fundamental islamists and destabilizes the whole region for decades. The US is fucked up and the attack was stupid, but people who got sympathies for Iran are crazy.

      • Omgpwnies@lemmy.worldEnglish
        132·
        3 months ago

        Iran is a cruel authoritarian system that massacres its own population, is reigned by fundamental islamists and destabilizes the whole region for decades.

        This is also the USA’s fault for toppling Iran’s progressive government and installing the ayatollah to get access to Iran’s oil on the cheap.

        • lokalhorst@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          So the Mullahs are innocent or what is your point? That is a weird way to comprehend history.

          • 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish
            111·
            3 months ago

            No the point is that it’s the USA, the UK’s and so forth fault because they keep fucking with any weaker country’s politics such that they stay forever weak, regardless if that means propping up genocidal regimes

            Your take is a weird way to comprehend the fact that international pressures and massive interference exist in this world.

        • bluGill@fedia.io
          2·
          3 months ago

          That was before I was born, or for that matter, when most people alive today were born. We need to quit stopping looking at history and trying to place blame but look at the current world and figure out how we can we make it better. Mind that I have no clue how to do this either, but pointing to history is not particularly helpful to get to the future in this case.

          • Omgpwnies@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            3 months ago

            The key events happened between 1950 and 1990, plenty of people who are alive now were around for that. Also, studying and understanding history is critical to understanding the current state of the world and to chart a path that does not repeat those mistakes.

      • yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        fundamental islamists

        Worse actually. Doomsday cultists to be precise. Not entirely but their influence is very strong in Iran.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hojjatie_Society

        However according to other sources, while the organization may oppose violence and political activity by its own members, it believes disorder and suffering (and sin and violence) are necessary to hasten the appearance of the Mahdi.

        Who is Mahdi?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

        The Mahdi is said to be a descendant of Muhammad and is believed to appear at the End of Times, shortly before Jesus returns (in Islamic belief), to rid the world of evil and injustice.

        Before his reappearance (Arabic: ظهور, romanized: ẓuhūr), the world will plunge into chaos, where immorality and ignorance will be commonplace, the Qur’an will be forgotten, and religion will be abandoned. There will be plagues, earthquakes, floods, wars and death.

        He is viewed as the sole legitimate ruler of the Muslim world and the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran recognizes him as the head of the state.

        What do you get when a significant regional power wants to hasten the beginning of the apocalypse? Certainly not lasting stability, I believe.

    • 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish
      102·
      3 months ago

      Iran has been funding anyone willing to attack Israel

      Funny how I never heard of a single missile hitting Israel prior to them bombing children in Iran

      • bluGill@fedia.io
        43·
        3 months ago

        Then you have not been paying attention. Hezbollah has been sending missiles in off and on for decades. Hamas in Yemen has been doing it once in a while. Palestine as well. All funded in large part by Iran.

    • moustachio@lemmy.worldEnglish
      62·
      3 months ago

      The U.S. should be bombing Israel.

      They’re a threat to global security, and an adversary to the United States.

    • auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      Trump wasn’t TRYING for peace. He literally went over there to stomp on their foot, and sabotages any attempt at a ceasefire.

      I would be unsurprised if its one of those stupid revenge things he’s doing because someone said something bad about him at one time.

      He’s not using resources to defend America… They’re being used to benefit himself.