That’s just bs, with win11 at over 70% vs 12% win10.
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Sorry, but this sounds like its half bs.
It probably has less to do with “rejecting” or anything to do with RAM, and more likely to do with all the embedded systems running it, or lazy people who don’t upgrade simply because they don’t need to)
I know lots of people running old versions of Mac OS, and it is because their hardware doesn’t support newer, and it works fine for their usecase. They’re not thinking about the hardware in any way.
In fact, in contrast to MacOS, Microsoft actually offers this extended support option, whereas Apple tells its users to get f’ed fairly quickly (yet another reason NOT to use MacOS). Also, Ubuntu offers 15 years now support for LTS (which is crazy).
I use Fedora btw.
Does ESU require a Microsoft Account? Because that’s probably the underhanded/shady bit of this whole thing.
“All your data are belong to Microsoft.”
Just reposting something. Most of it probably applies to Windows 10 too.
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PSA, for people sticking to Windows:
You can get a reasonable level of privacy by installing Windows Enterprise via RUFUS, which also has options for removing restrictions during installation. Massgravel is used to activate your copy of Windows, the Github also having .ISOs for you to use with RUFUS.
ShutUp10 is a piece of software that goes a step further, allowing you to toggle off many bad things, uninstall Microsoft’s AI, and gives a description of what you are tweaking does. The premium version also automatically applies your settings at all times, reverting Microsoft’s constant tweaking of your settings.
Some people really do say that Linux is too much hassle, but then go through a 30 step process just to have a slightly less bloated piece of spyware.
I mean, it’s good that this option exists. I’m sure it’ll be helpful for people who need Windows 10 for some obscure music software, that doesn’t work well or at all in a virtual machine or through wine. That might really be Windows 10’s singular last use case.
For some reason I always thought it was massgrave not massgravel.
I think they rebranded. I kinda figured that Massgrave was some sort of holdover of 90’s teen edginess or something.
Honestly, Microsoft may be full of arseholes, but moves like this at least one sane human works for the company.
It takes balls to admit you fucked up , and this is one employee showing some balls.
That’s one way of seeing it. Another is “if we kick them out of 10 and they are not willing to go to 11, they will switch to Linux or go Mac, we’d rather have them on 10 than not at all”
Or more likely just continue to use Windows 10 when it’s no longer supported.
Microsoft is squeezing everyone with EOL shenanigans. If it becomes commonplace to continue using software when it’s no longer supported, this strategy no longer works.
Hackers will enjoy the land of exploits, though, whereas Linux seems to allow you to patch without needing to change versions. Sure, it may slow the experience, but meh.
That carries more self-awareness than one can reasonably imply from vulture-capitalist shareholders.
Nah, I’m good. Switched to Linux, and there’s no need for me to go back
Gotta use a MS account on your computer though, so this is not a viable option for a lot of people
I know many people are pushing Linux but imagine having to train basic users on another OS after decades on Windows? It’s fine for your home lab, but blows ass for a windows shop
But every version of windows requires training because they keep changing crap for no reason.
As in why the split between settings and control panel. Why the nonstop start menu changes? And so forth
Having separate interfaces for user settings and system settings makes sense for companies that prevent users from changing system settings.
The Start Menu shit… probably just a strategy to get people to use bing.
its not about making sense, there are plenty of system settings in the settings app. Moving to the setting app was about getting the minimum shippable set of settings into it, anything that is left in the control panel is there because it was high effort for them to untangle (or in some cases the expertise to untangle it is no long at Microsoft). They keep saying eventually the Control Panel will be retired, but its a long and expensive process
They both contain both types of settings, though.
Windows 10 to 11 is a much simpler jump than 10 to Ubuntu.
Honestly, I don’t think so. I saw people do both, I helped people do both. Especially if you go with KDE, for a developed Windows user learning how to do random OS maintenance on Linux is often easier than to understand what the fucked up in 11. For not a poweruser it’s even less complicated, you’re asking your IT guy anyway, as long as all your tasks are being done it doesn’t matter.
It wasn’t the same when people were going from 7 to 10.Someone just needs to built a “Explorer shell” that’ll make it seamless. Of course, Microsoft would go scorched Earth if that happened.
Uh if your employees can’t learn a slightly different interface that can be made to be almost identical to windows you should fire them. They suck and said employees are fucked on the job market.
if it’s a problem that linux is unfamiliar, then don’t worry because windows 11 is a bigger change from 10 than modern kde linux
IDK, some asshole recommended one of my elderly family members a chromebook, he can’t adapt to it, and lost the admin password. Windows 10 shoves shovelware and random updates on his computer confusing him anyway, do you really think LMDE is going to be that much harder to understand than having to explain to him where the fuck avast antivirus came from?
ChromeOS 🤮
I couldn’t figure it out either. It manages to break so many conventions, and not in a good way. “Installing” an app might mean something close to a traditional install (but only it knows where things are installed to). Or it could mean creating a web shortcut… Also, where the fuck are my files? Where is anything?? Is it even on my machine?! Words are supposed to have meaning! What the fuck, google??
I’d say it is worse trying to find replacement for software not available on Linux and trying to adjust/learn the new workflow when you do.
On the other hand, a lot of software I wanted was primarily Linux, so that was nice when I switched.
It’s so much easier than you think, it’s not even funny
You must be young, spry, and tech savvy.
I’m relatively old, and spent some time teaching people how to use computers, both as a job and voluntarily. I don’t do that anymore as much, but there are a lot of people who continue using me as tech support because I like helping people.
My mom is nearly 80, pre-school teacher by education. She converted from Windows 10 to Linux with me giving her instructions on the phone, and even since the amount of problems she need my help with fell by at least an order of magnitude. Meanwhile her librarian friend converted to 11 and she needs help constantly, even though she was able to use 10.
I really wished I saved the thread but there was a great post on Reddit back in the day of a sysadmin that successfully move his entire company to OpenSUSE(comments): https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/sesmwr/finished_a_full_corporate_migration_from_windows/
Weird, who doesn’t want to buy a new computer because reasons, in this economy
Odds there will be an official NVIDIA version of SteamOS by then?
Why SteamOS specifically? It’s not a particularly good Linux distro, unless you’re using a Steam Deck or a Steam Machine.
And even then, better options exist if you feel like switching the device’s OS. Personally I keep SteamOS on my Deck, because I don’t want to reinstall all the games. Otherwise I’d move to Bazzite.
There are plenty of Linux distros with either Nvidia drivers pre-installed or with toddler level installation of them. If your only issue is nvidia drivers, then it makes no sense to wait for SteamOS. Try Pop!_OS, Manjaro, Ubuntu, Mint, or Fedora. Any of these will do a better job than SteamOS (ok, maybe not ubuntu), and they’re available right now.
By 2027 I have transitioned to fedora or another variant of Linux. I am on Linux mint now.
if you’re on LMDE you’re set forever.
Good way to go! And if you’re really technically ept and have no friends, don’t use arch but rather the average systemd-free glibc-free and ofc bloatless distro. That’ll get you occupied for a while.
i still havent registered by Win 10 yet. i outlasted the OS!
massgrave gets you the updates without an MS account. I have it deployed on a couple machines.
in a big windows network, local user accounts were in a group called l_users with restrictive policies. losers for short. normal windows users mostly clueless
